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This is like celebrating that the Windows PC market is no longer "Dell" and "Gateway" circa 2000. True, but eMachines and similar low-margin makers don't neces

This is like celebrating that the Windows PC market is no longer "Dell" and "Gateway" circa 2000. True, but eMachines and similar low-margin makers don't necessarily portend a healthy, innovating market. The Chinese upstarts look promising, but with razor-thin margins, there will be strong incentive to include crapware and cut corners (RAM, sourcing internals from spotty suppliers to save a few cents,etc). Without an Android high end, it will be a lot harder for anyone to fast follow Apple features and accessories.

soylentcola 11y ago
This is what really bums me out about Motorola. I couldn't stand Motorola when they were making those "DRROOOOIIIIDDD" phones for Verizon. They always seemed slow, unreliable, and overpriced. Then when Google took over they really nailed it with the Moto X and the unusually capable budget models like the Moto G. My Moto X wasn't quite as cheap as my Nexus 5 ($450 vs $350) but it still wasn't the $650-800 of the usual higher-end Galaxies and iPhones. The build quality is excellent, the customizations are subtle and unobtrusive (active display, etc), and I've been on Kitkat since shortly after it was released. But more recently, I'm not as confident that they'll keep it up post-Google. I had to deal with their support team for an issue with another device and it was maddening. I really hope that isn't indicative of things to come, especially since Google seems to be positioning Nexus as more of a competitor in the contract/subsidy market with $650+ phones and deals with carriers. I really like having a company that makes more reasonably priced (and still not crappy) options but I think I'll still choose paying more over ever going back to Samsung again. With them, you pay top prices but get mediocre results at best.

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This is like celebrating that the Windows PC market is no longer "Dell" and "Gateway" circa 2000. True, but eMachines and similar low-margin makers don't neces

by saturdaysaint 11y ago

soylentcola 11y ago
This is what really bums me out about Motorola. I couldn't stand Motorola when they were making those "DRROOOOIIIIDDD" phones for Verizon. They always seemed slow, unreliable, and overpriced. Then when Google took over they really nailed it with the Moto X and the unusually capable budget models like the Moto G. My Moto X wasn't quite as cheap as my Nexus 5 ($450 vs $350) but it still wasn't the $650-800 of the usual higher-end Galaxies and iPhones. The build quality is excellent, the customizations are subtle and unobtrusive (active display, etc), and I've been on Kitkat since shortly after it was released. But more recently, I'm not as confident that they'll keep it up post-Google. I had to deal with their support team for an issue with another device and it was maddening. I really hope that isn't indicative of things to come, especially since Google seems to be positioning Nexus as more of a competitor in the contract/subsidy market with $650+ phones and deals with carriers. I really like having a company that makes more reasonably priced (and still not crappy) options but I think I'll still choose paying more over ever going back to Samsung again. With them, you pay top prices but get mediocre results at best.