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do people have any more freedoms left in UK?

• joeter 17y ago
  liberalized gambling laws
• Slashed 17y ago
  I will answer your question as a Londoner - Unfortunately, no. Though, now I live in Dublin and I already got a first letter from my ISP, warning me about using P2P networks. Gee, what a bunch of *holes!
• bumblebird 17y ago
  At least we can drink a pint of beer before we're 21. Keep your "freedom". We also have the freedom of health care for all. You know, we look after each other so people don't die so much.
  • philwelch 17y ago
    sigh I'm happy for you that you have more freedom to drink beer. May I kindly suggest that, when exercising that freedom, you try and avoid nationalistic flame wars? This is Hacker News.
    • bumblebird 17y ago
      ... and that's why I flagged this article. As well as the "European startups don't work hard" rubbish. Unfortunately they keep coming. Plus, the OP comment of "Does the UK have any freedoms left" is obviously quite ridiculous.
      • shiranaihito 17y ago
        In other news: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/13/1347.asp http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/13/1347.asp
    • foldr 17y ago
      Why are you taking the parent to task for this rather than the OP?
      • philwelch 17y ago
        It's a fair question. To me, it's a positive thing to criticize the decline of civil liberties in one country, but a negative thing to respond to that criticism with a "at least we're better than another country" flame. It's not productive at all to play the "my country is less bad than yours" game.
        • foldr 17y ago
          > It's a fair question. To me, it's a positive thing to criticize the decline of civil liberties in one country, but a negative thing to respond to that criticism with a "at least we're better than another country" flame. The OP's comment was clearly a flame of precisely that sort. It wasn't making any constructive commentary on civil liberties issues, just asking a dumb and inflammatory rhetorical question. I suggest that the only reason you find the OP less offensive than the reply is that you're American and not British. If our internet laws are fair game for criticism, I think your (crazy) alcohol laws and health system must be too :) Also, what makes you so sure that civil liberties have been "declining" in the UK? There have been steps forward as well as steps back, I don't see any justification for overall pessimism.
          • philwelch 17y ago
            And if there were an HN article about American alcohol and health care policies, I'd criticize them along with you. The OP wasn't a good comment either, but the response was even worse, which is another way of saying "internet flamewars escalate".
            • foldr 17y ago
              But it was the OP who broadened the topic of discussion by asking if there were "any" freedoms left in Britain. That naturally invites comparisons outside the area of copyright law. >especially when you're doing it in a dishonest attempt to make British law seem better. I don't think he was trying to make British copyright law seem better; at least, I didn't read that into the post.
• foldr 17y ago
  We still have the freedom to ignore stupid rhetorical questions, fortunately. But I can sort of see how people would form this opinion of life in the UK based on internet hyperbole.
• Alnoor 17y ago
  do people have any jobs left in usa? lol