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> In Germany's behavior within the E.U. and open desire to rule Europe? Citation needed. It's Germany's money that's bankrolling the bailouts, and as far as I

> In Germany's behavior within the E.U. and open desire to rule Europe? Citation needed. It's Germany's money that's bankrolling the bailouts, and as far as I can tell (from quite some distance away, mind you), the public opinion is less "We need Lebensraum! Let's take over southern Europe!" and more "Fund Greece & co with my tax money? NOPE NOPE NOPE."

youngtaff 11y ago
Yes but the bailout of Greece wasn't a bailout of Greece but a bailout of German, French etc. banks so German money was just recycled into it's own banks
coldtea 11y ago
>Citation needed.It's Germany's money that's bankrolling the bailouts, and as far as I can tell (from quite some distance away, mind you) First, it's not just about the current bailout. It's a pattern of behavior going back to the eighties, and especially evident after the re-union with East Germany, and it has to do with control of EU directives and policies (including, but not limited to, monetary policies). (Or rather, one could say, it's a pattern of behavior going back to the first and second world wars, as the whole European Union, as an initiative was thought up to constrain future German foul-play ( http://www.amazon.com/The-New-World-Perry-Anderson/dp/1844677214 http://www.amazon.com/The-New-World-Perry-Anderson/dp/184467... )). >It's Germany's money that's bankrolling the bailouts, and as far as I can tell Not really. In fact they could care less about Greece or the South in general, it's about saving their banks and using tax-payer money to siphon it to the German (and French etc) equivalent of Wall Street: http://www.economist.com/node/18560535 http://www.economist.com/node/18560535 http://speri.dept.shef.ac.uk/2013/11/11/dirty-secret-euro-zone-crisis-german-banks/ http://speri.dept.shef.ac.uk/2013/11/11/dirty-secret-euro-zo... http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-09-12/is-germany-responsible-for-the-euro-crisis http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-09-12/is-germany-r... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-11/crisis-saves-germany-about-100-billion-kiel-institute-says http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-11/crisis-sav... http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/germany-profiting-from-euro-crisis-through-low-interest-rates-a-917296.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/germany-profiting... https://euobserver.com/economic/114231 https://euobserver.com/economic/114231

youngtaff 11y ago

Yes but the bailout of Greece wasn't a bailout of Greece but a bailout of German, French etc. banks so German money was just recycled into it's own banks

coldtea 11y ago

>Citation needed.It's Germany's money that's bankrolling the bailouts, and as far as I can tell (from quite some distance away, mind you) First, it's not just about the current bailout. It's a pattern of behavior going back to the eighties, and especially evident after the re-union with East Germany, and it has to do with control of EU directives and policies (including, but not limited to, monetary policies). (Or rather, one could say, it's a pattern of behavior going back to the first and second world wars, as the whole European Union, as an initiative was thought up to constrain future German foul-play ( http://www.amazon.com/The-New-World-Perry-Anderson/dp/1844677214 http://www.amazon.com/The-New-World-Perry-Anderson/dp/184467... )). >It's Germany's money that's bankrolling the bailouts, and as far as I can tell Not really. In fact they could care less about Greece or the South in general, it's about saving their banks and using tax-payer money to siphon it to the German (and French etc) equivalent of Wall Street: http://www.economist.com/node/18560535 http://www.economist.com/node/18560535 http://speri.dept.shef.ac.uk/2013/11/11/dirty-secret-euro-zone-crisis-german-banks/ http://speri.dept.shef.ac.uk/2013/11/11/dirty-secret-euro-zo... http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-09-12/is-germany-responsible-for-the-euro-crisis http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-09-12/is-germany-r... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-11/crisis-saves-germany-about-100-billion-kiel-institute-says http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-11/crisis-sav... http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/germany-profiting-from-euro-crisis-through-low-interest-rates-a-917296.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/germany-profiting... https://euobserver.com/economic/114231 https://euobserver.com/economic/114231