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For me, personally, I'd be delighted to have some really good Rembrandt and Goldie forgeries (that is, copies executed in oils), and maybe a few impressionists.

by rodgerd 12y ago

For me, personally, I'd be delighted to have some really good Rembrandt and Goldie forgeries (that is, copies executed in oils), and maybe a few impressionists. The texture of the works is a big part of the experience. But I'd also like the originals to be available as part of our shared cultural history and heritage, rather than locked in a vault to gloat over. That said, the shared culture/history is undermined by the way many galleries and museums behave - my wife is a painter and is moved to fury by the way that sketching and painting is now forbidden by many institutions; the artists being exhibited may well have learned their own trade sitting in a museum copying the revered masters of their own era; that options is denied to modern students.

derefr 12y ago
Indeed, one of the interesting things about a world with "forgery museums" is how much less protected they would need to be. Imagine if the public were actually allowed to touch the (replica) painting. Sounds crazy, doesn't it? If a reproduction was a $30K capital cost for scanning and oil synthesis, followed by a $2K marginal cost for reproduction, though, why not let the public touch it? Just print another one each year. Heck, destroy the reproductions when you would normally rotate them out of display, and then print them again when you want to install them anew. For that matter, imagine if one could study (excellent forgeries of) old masters in their local museum/gallery, instead of having to fly to Europe. In fact, imagine if you could "run off" a replica for group study in art school from the room beside the offset printer!
infectoid 12y ago
I found this old news article interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xyZ63s43uM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xyZ63s43uM There was also a doco about the industry in China that I watched but can't recall the name.
huuu 12y ago
Océ does 3D scanning and printing. Here a Youtube movie of the process: https://youtu.be/EXRt64HEBrk https://youtu.be/EXRt64HEBrk Edit: this was only printed by Océ. More info can be found here: http://www.timzaman.com/2013/09/3d-scan-and-print-paintings/ http://www.timzaman.com/2013/09/3d-scan-and-print-paintings/ Interesting quote: We noticed that things like glossiness and transparency that are in each painting are very distinguishing in the original, and we are not yet able to reproduce.
briandear 12y ago
The Louvre and the D'orsay actually sponsor sketching and copying. So luckily the trend isn't everywhere.

by rodgerd 12y ago

derefr 12y ago

Indeed, one of the interesting things about a world with "forgery museums" is how much less protected they would need to be. Imagine if the public were actually allowed to touch the (replica) painting. Sounds crazy, doesn't it? If a reproduction was a $30K capital cost for scanning and oil synthesis, followed by a $2K marginal cost for reproduction, though, why not let the public touch it? Just print another one each year. Heck, destroy the reproductions when you would normally rotate them out of display, and then print them again when you want to install them anew. For that matter, imagine if one could study (excellent forgeries of) old masters in their local museum/gallery, instead of having to fly to Europe. In fact, imagine if you could "run off" a replica for group study in art school from the room beside the offset printer!

infectoid 12y ago

I found this old news article interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xyZ63s43uM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xyZ63s43uM There was also a doco about the industry in China that I watched but can't recall the name.

huuu 12y ago

Océ does 3D scanning and printing. Here a Youtube movie of the process: https://youtu.be/EXRt64HEBrk https://youtu.be/EXRt64HEBrk Edit: this was only printed by Océ. More info can be found here: http://www.timzaman.com/2013/09/3d-scan-and-print-paintings/ http://www.timzaman.com/2013/09/3d-scan-and-print-paintings/ Interesting quote: We noticed that things like glossiness and transparency that are in each painting are very distinguishing in the original, and we are not yet able to reproduce.

briandear 12y ago

The Louvre and the D'orsay actually sponsor sketching and copying. So luckily the trend isn't everywhere.