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Honestly, good luck to you and bai! I am happy for all those that voted Tory. The country would have been a complete shambles had Labour got in. Do you peopl

Honestly, good luck to you and bai! I am happy for all those that voted Tory. The country would have been a complete shambles had Labour got in. Do you people have short memories of the last Labour Goverment? There was no money left. Immigration was out of control. There were musings of ditching the pound and having the euro as the currency. Giving more powers to the EU. Complete madness. Labour would not have been more happier if the UK was sold off like Greece. Now under a Tory parliament, the UK has a chance of being great again. Being fiscally responsible and fostering a climate for more jobs for people and better wages. Last I heard the UK was outpacing Germany! It's funny, where will you go. Yeah, no-where IS perfect.

cobweb 11y ago
Very funny.
- madez 11y ago
  I genuinely laughed while reading it.
harel 11y ago
You are being downvoted (and probably me to follow) because you said something 'unpopular' in a context of a quite lefty post. To be honest I think the British public voted for the better candidate out of the existing options. They were not presented with stellar choices, so they had to make do. Online privacy, I believe was not why most people voted or did not vote Tory. Yes, apps like Aral's (which good on him, I support it), have a chance of being affected. Maybe. Its just as likely that it won't be. Who knows? The whole world is snooping and listening so it might as well be happening wherever he goes. However, had Labour won you'd see the exact same post created by someone else, leaving the country because Labour had won, stating his/hers reasons and telling the public to be ashamed of themselves. This is how democracy works. half the people will be unhappy.
- dijit 11y ago
  Labour is increasingly right wing, but you're wrong about Tory's being a good option. Tories now have majority rule in the house of commons for 5 years, which means they can push whatever they want as long as they're aligned without being reigned in. Last time this happened the gap between rich and poor deepened massively, benefits were slashed, our rail system was privatised and Libraries closed- oh, and Miners went on strike due to terrible conditions. 38% is not a Majority vote, in my mind, and leveraging young voters because they "don't know better" and have very little consideration to other issues that do not affect young fit workers is a very American thing to do. honestly, growing up poor has taught me to respect socialist ideals such as public free healthcare and benefits for the unable. - But there was a time in my teen years where even I would have voted conservative because "these issues" wouldn't have affected me as a young worker- but they will one day and people should be quick to recognise that. Tories scare the life out of me, they have a history of being self-serving. :\ and you're right about the choices not being stellar. I'd suggest creating another party- but we have so many!
  - harel 11y ago
    There is never a "majority" vote. It would take the majority actually going out to vote. There is a silver lining there as well for the Tory-disappointed. Keep in mind that most likely a lot of the votes that gave Cameroon his win, came from people who might have voted UKIP and changed their mind in the last minute. I'd like to believe the Conservative of today are not those from the 80s and that today, all parties except the extremists, start from the centre and lean from there. Edit: let me drop this here: The majority vote that gave the win was actually a lot smaller than people think. The deciding factor was in the hands of about 1000 people: http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2015/05/majority-2015.html http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2015/05/majority-2015.html
  - harel 11y ago
    By the way, I don't' see myself as left or right wing. I look at an issue, and sometimes the left has a good solution, sometimes the right does. What we need is not a new party - we need a new way of governance which is issue based, not 'time' based. Maybe one day technology will be advanced and easy enough to allow safe referendums from your mobile device. Continuous referendums...
PythonicAlpha 11y ago
> Last I heard the UK was outpacing Germany! Short-term comparisons are always wrong. Sorry, I am German, but still I must say that, because it is right. Don't believe in what your politicians tell you, I don't believe what our politicians are telling me! (many statistics are basically on the verge to lies, I know that, because our government is falsifying so many).
necrodawg 11y ago
Austerity is a tool to prevent a sovereign default. It has never in history worked to reduce deficit and increase growth except for a few of the post-soviet countries who had huge governments. I agree that the choices weren't that great but I'd rather see labour in charge.
mavdi 11y ago
Outpaced most EU countries financially. My income has quadrupled since the tories got in office, but I still very much prefer the old days where the next guy actually gave a shit about you.
dba7dba 11y ago
no-where IS perfect Seriously. UK/US/EU/Aus/NZ/plus few others are just about perfect places. There's a reason they enjoy prosperity, stability, and fairness in general.
- tjbiddle 11y ago
  If it was perfect, than everyone would be happy.
  - dba7dba 11y ago
    UK/US/EU/Aus/NZ/plus few others are closer to being perfect place than pretty much any other place. Don't you agree?

cobweb 11y ago

Very funny.

madez 11y ago
I genuinely laughed while reading it.

harel 11y ago

You are being downvoted (and probably me to follow) because you said something 'unpopular' in a context of a quite lefty post. To be honest I think the British public voted for the better candidate out of the existing options. They were not presented with stellar choices, so they had to make do. Online privacy, I believe was not why most people voted or did not vote Tory. Yes, apps like Aral's (which good on him, I support it), have a chance of being affected. Maybe. Its just as likely that it won't be. Who knows? The whole world is snooping and listening so it might as well be happening wherever he goes. However, had Labour won you'd see the exact same post created by someone else, leaving the country because Labour had won, stating his/hers reasons and telling the public to be ashamed of themselves. This is how democracy works. half the people will be unhappy.

dijit 11y ago
Labour is increasingly right wing, but you're wrong about Tory's being a good option. Tories now have majority rule in the house of commons for 5 years, which means they can push whatever they want as long as they're aligned without being reigned in. Last time this happened the gap between rich and poor deepened massively, benefits were slashed, our rail system was privatised and Libraries closed- oh, and Miners went on strike due to terrible conditions. 38% is not a Majority vote, in my mind, and leveraging young voters because they "don't know better" and have very little consideration to other issues that do not affect young fit workers is a very American thing to do. honestly, growing up poor has taught me to respect socialist ideals such as public free healthcare and benefits for the unable. - But there was a time in my teen years where even I would have voted conservative because "these issues" wouldn't have affected me as a young worker- but they will one day and people should be quick to recognise that. Tories scare the life out of me, they have a history of being self-serving. :\ and you're right about the choices not being stellar. I'd suggest creating another party- but we have so many!
- harel 11y ago
  There is never a "majority" vote. It would take the majority actually going out to vote. There is a silver lining there as well for the Tory-disappointed. Keep in mind that most likely a lot of the votes that gave Cameroon his win, came from people who might have voted UKIP and changed their mind in the last minute. I'd like to believe the Conservative of today are not those from the 80s and that today, all parties except the extremists, start from the centre and lean from there. Edit: let me drop this here: The majority vote that gave the win was actually a lot smaller than people think. The deciding factor was in the hands of about 1000 people: http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2015/05/majority-2015.html http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2015/05/majority-2015.html
- harel 11y ago
  By the way, I don't' see myself as left or right wing. I look at an issue, and sometimes the left has a good solution, sometimes the right does. What we need is not a new party - we need a new way of governance which is issue based, not 'time' based. Maybe one day technology will be advanced and easy enough to allow safe referendums from your mobile device. Continuous referendums...

PythonicAlpha 11y ago

> Last I heard the UK was outpacing Germany! Short-term comparisons are always wrong. Sorry, I am German, but still I must say that, because it is right. Don't believe in what your politicians tell you, I don't believe what our politicians are telling me! (many statistics are basically on the verge to lies, I know that, because our government is falsifying so many).

necrodawg 11y ago

Austerity is a tool to prevent a sovereign default. It has never in history worked to reduce deficit and increase growth except for a few of the post-soviet countries who had huge governments. I agree that the choices weren't that great but I'd rather see labour in charge.

mavdi 11y ago

Outpaced most EU countries financially. My income has quadrupled since the tories got in office, but I still very much prefer the old days where the next guy actually gave a shit about you.

dba7dba 11y ago

no-where IS perfect Seriously. UK/US/EU/Aus/NZ/plus few others are just about perfect places. There's a reason they enjoy prosperity, stability, and fairness in general.

tjbiddle 11y ago
If it was perfect, than everyone would be happy.
- dba7dba 11y ago
  UK/US/EU/Aus/NZ/plus few others are closer to being perfect place than pretty much any other place. Don't you agree?