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From your own link: "Google and Delphi said their cars were not at fault in any accidents, which the companies said were minor."

by ender7 11y ago

toomuchtodo 11y ago
Also from article this thread is tied to: > If you spend enough time on the road, accidents will happen whether you’re in a car or a self-driving car. Over the 6 years since we started the project, we’ve been involved in 11 minor accidents (light damage, no injuries) during those 1.7 million miles of autonomous and manual driving with our safety drivers behind the wheel, and not once was the self-driving car the cause of the accident.
- afarrell 11y ago
  I'm curious many of these miles were on snow and ice.
  - ams6110 11y ago
    In Mountain View? I'm not from around there but I'd guess zero?
    - tikhonj 11y ago
      I'm pretty sure I've seen Google's car being tested up in Tahoe, so the answer is some. (The areas around Tahoe's ski resorts get quite a lot of snow and ice too, so it's certainly a good place for this sort of testing.)
emptybits 11y ago
To not be legally "at fault" is important, particularly for a company with liability and public image at stake. I genuinely look forward to future stats that will tell us self-driven cars have a much lower likelihood of even being involved in accidents, independent of fault. To me, that level of defensiveness and net safety is also a measure of progress. As an example: Let's say a particular self-driven car has a low threshold to "stomp on the brakes, hard" at the slightest sign of danger. Will this keep it from accumulating "at fault" accidents? Probably. But can that behaviour effectively contribute to causing accidents that it's not "at fault" for (being rear-ended)? Probably. Safer roads? Difficult to say.
- danielweber 11y ago
  It seems that the Google car does avoid that. "we’ve been hit from behind seven times, mainly at traffic lights but also on the freeway" If you are stopped at a red light with a car in front of you, sitting there and taking a collision from behind can be the best course of action, depending on the trailing car's speed.

From your own link: "Google and Delphi said their cars were not at fault in any accidents, which the companies said were minor."

by ender7 11y ago

From your own link: "Google and Delphi said their cars were not at fault in any accidents, which the companies said were minor."

toomuchtodo 11y ago

Also from article this thread is tied to: > If you spend enough time on the road, accidents will happen whether you’re in a car or a self-driving car. Over the 6 years since we started the project, we’ve been involved in 11 minor accidents (light damage, no injuries) during those 1.7 million miles of autonomous and manual driving with our safety drivers behind the wheel, and not once was the self-driving car the cause of the accident.

afarrell 11y ago
I'm curious many of these miles were on snow and ice.
- ams6110 11y ago
  In Mountain View? I'm not from around there but I'd guess zero?
  - tikhonj 11y ago
    I'm pretty sure I've seen Google's car being tested up in Tahoe, so the answer is some. (The areas around Tahoe's ski resorts get quite a lot of snow and ice too, so it's certainly a good place for this sort of testing.)

emptybits 11y ago

To not be legally "at fault" is important, particularly for a company with liability and public image at stake. I genuinely look forward to future stats that will tell us self-driven cars have a much lower likelihood of even being involved in accidents, independent of fault. To me, that level of defensiveness and net safety is also a measure of progress. As an example: Let's say a particular self-driven car has a low threshold to "stomp on the brakes, hard" at the slightest sign of danger. Will this keep it from accumulating "at fault" accidents? Probably. But can that behaviour effectively contribute to causing accidents that it's not "at fault" for (being rear-ended)? Probably. Safer roads? Difficult to say.

danielweber 11y ago
It seems that the Google car does avoid that. "we’ve been hit from behind seven times, mainly at traffic lights but also on the freeway" If you are stopped at a red light with a car in front of you, sitting there and taking a collision from behind can be the best course of action, depending on the trailing car's speed.