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Let's say you're a man, and the tables have turned -- men are the long-oppressed sex, and you need to turn to women investors to raise money for a business: Ho
by dantillberg 11y ago
Let's say you're a man, and the tables have turned -- men are the long-oppressed sex, and you need to turn to women investors to raise money for a business:
How would you feel if you showed up to an event to raise money for your budding business, but instead of serious conversations with the mostly-female crowd of investors, most seem childishly interested in glancing at and discussing your butt, or perhaps feeling your biceps. You keep trying to bring the conversation back from butts and biceps to YourCompany, and finally one of the investors interjects that no, they only invest in "serious" companies (coded language which you know means: companies founded by people that look like themselves), but that they do like feisty men, and perhaps they could invite you out for a drink or two sometime.
Would that not be infuriating? How would you feel if you had listened to that conversation play out in front of you? What would you want to do in response? Would you empathize with the experience of the person that came to talk business but is instead treated as a sex object? Or would you laugh, because it amuses you to watch someone carelessly crush the dreams and soul of someone that doesn't look like you?
Date invitation, in certain inappropriate contexts, while not illegal per se, ought to be punished via civil means.
- mreiland 11y agoYou don't actually know how it happened. quoting from the article: > It’s extremely intimidating walking up to older men, getting them to make eye contact, and then convincing them to fund you through a quick convo. It’s also extremely easy to confuse these approaches with flirting – which is exactly what happened.
- throw23345 11y agoWho says that does not happen? As men I am 'lucky', woman has privilege to get offender fired. My friend works at bar, he has even better stories to share. Also in this case this does not happened as you described. In this case offense is "personal invitation". That could be anything from date to job offer. Guy with bad product would not even get response.
- ryanx435 11y agoin all seriousness i would leverage the shit out of that advantage. if I could raise a large A round simply by having sex with a few people, you're Goddammit right I would. jesus, it's hard as crap to get a one on one with VCs, no matter what gender you are. iif i was a hot woman and a VC wanted to buy me a few drinks, pay for a nice dinner, sure let's call it a date, but I'll still pitch you on funding. I'd go on all kinds of dates until I got what I wanted. "if you show up for a fair fight, you have not prepared enough"
- gradstudent 11y ago> in all seriousness i would leverage the shit out of that advantage. if I could raise a large A round simply by having sex with a few people, you're Goddammit right I would. You're thinking as a man living in a patriarchy. In this world a man sleeping with some women to get ahead is more likely to draw admiration than denigration. A woman doing the same thing is likely to be shunned and slut-shamed. She doesn't even need to have a conflict of interest. See also #GamerGate.
- ryanx435 11y agono, I'm thinking as a human being operating in a competitive environmnent. I'm calling bullshit on you telling me how I think. Fuck your patriarchy crap. life is not fair. business is not fair. use what advantages you have to get a head start. that is my thought process.
- gradstudent 11y ago> Fuck your patriarchy crap Thank you for that incisive and articulate bit of commentary. I guess you sure showed me, eh?
- ryanx435 11y agoGuess I did :)
- facepalm 11y ago