Are you counting Java IDE keystrokes or actual number of characters on the screen? If it's the latter, I'd be interested in seeing an example since it's very mu

Are you counting Java IDE keystrokes or actual number of characters on the screen? If it's the latter, I'd be interested in seeing an example since it's very much against the wisdom of the crowds here. My experience is that the complicated part web app is the part that does the state coordination, which can be either end.