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I've been an advocate of transparent discussion for some time. The TPP represents a huge constellation of laws and it is absurd that the negotiations are done s
by xnull2guest 11y ago
I've been an advocate of transparent discussion for some time. The TPP represents a huge constellation of laws and it is absurd that the negotiations are done so secretively.
But discussion about the TPP, too, is done in an opaque way. Everyone seems to have their favorite issue with it - for example information and piracy advocates will point to how grossly IP law is expanded internationally - others questions why only 5 or so chapters of a couple dozen have to do with trade if it's merely a trade deal - others will alarm at international corporate tribunals, worried that the largest and most aggressive corporations may abuse the liberal world order's tools to concentrate wealth and control.
But to understand the TPP - why it has few trade chapters relative to international law chapters and why IP and American corporate legal capabilities are strengthened as well as all of the secrecy - one needs to understand why the US has been pushing it on the Asia-Pacific region.
Washington Thinktanks and Defense Officials have come to the conclusion that the meteoric rise of China represents an existential threat to the supremacy of US hegemonic world order. The US's grand defense strategy has always been to 'balance' regions of the world where one country may otherwise dominate so that they can not then 'grow up' to play the global power game.
Take Blackwill's recent publication: Revising US Grand Strategy Toward China.
http://www.cfr.org/china/revising-us-grand-strategy-toward-china/p36371 http://www.cfr.org/china/revising-us-grand-strategy-toward-c...
Blackwill suggests a series of measures: the first being to get the TPP out the door to isolate China from international trade in its region. He goes on further to suggest that the DoD should invest in cyberwarfare and other capabilities - indeed these measures are being taken, as the DoD is now partnering with VC firms inside the Valley to steer funding toward national defense.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/23/defense-department-silicon-valley/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/23/defense-department-sili...
Secretary of Defense Carter penned his interest in the TPP, publicly stating that he would rather have the TPP than another aircraft carrier.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe just visited Congress, whereupon he spoke to them about the new unprecedented collective defense pact (think Asian NATO) being entered into by the two countries which required Japan to reinterpret its constitution. In the speech he discussed the importance of the TPP for defense purposes, and took questions about the rise of China.
None of this is a defense of the TPP. What it is is a call for transparent discussion. We can do one better than those discussing the TPP behind closed doors. We can speak openly about what it gets the US and its allies.
- honeybooboo123 11y ago> What it is is a call for transparent discussion. We can do one better than those discussing the TPP behind closed doors. We can speak openly about what it gets the US and its allies. That's the thing, we're not meant to discuss it transparently. We are not supposed to know anything about it, because everything in the TPP is against our interests. Why else would they keep everything secret? How many thousands of laws do politicians have to negotiate behind closed doors and sneakily pass in a session on Sunday at 06:12 in the morning when no one's looking, before people start waking up? There is no transparent discussion about anything they decide for us, because rulers don't discuss things with their subjects. "How would you like to be coerced this year?"
- beastofthefield 11y agoUS is a benevolent guardian of international world order and its geopolitical supremacy has brought nothing but benefits to other parties (Asia, EU, Japan). Unlike China, which only considers its own interests and has a leadership that is politically backward, does not hold any civilized values and poses a military threat to world peace and stability. Your feral Anti-Americanism is cute, but you offer nothing of substance.
- tomp 11y ago> poses a military threat to world peace and stability You can't be serious. In the past 10 years, the US has been a much greater threat to world peace than China, by a very large margin.
- beastofthefield 11y agoI suppose world peace is defined as tyrants and terrorists running the world and US doing nothing about it? US has used military action to promote long term peace and stability. China actively harasses sovereign nations in the pacific region and may invade them some day.
- tomp 11y agoThe ideas you talk about are great and noble, but the implementation shitty. Iraq is no better off than 10 years ago. In Syria, first Assad was the enemy, so they helped the militias, who turned out to be Isis. I'm not saying that China will always remain peaceful (internationally), but so far, their non-invasion policies have resulted in much less deaths than the US's invasion policies.