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I maintain a map of official launch countries for Firefox OS, with launch dates. [0][1] [0] http://nickdesaulniers.github.io/where-is-firefox-os/ http://nickde

I maintain a map of official launch countries for Firefox OS, with launch dates. [0][1] [0] http://nickdesaulniers.github.io/where-is-firefox-os/ http://nickdesaulniers.github.io/where-is-firefox-os/ [1] https://github.com/nickdesaulniers/where-is-firefox-os https://github.com/nickdesaulniers/where-is-firefox-os

hiphopyo 11y ago
Could you possibly add an ETA to the countries where it's not at?
- ndesaulniers 11y ago
  heh, yeah, if I _had_ that information. When?! When?! One day, is that not enough for you?! One day he went dumb, one day I went blind, one day we'll go deaf, one day we were born, one day we shall die, the same day, the same second, is that not enough for you? They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
digi_owl 11y ago
I find it odd that it has yet to reach the Nordics, given that one of their big partners are Telenor (the former national monopoly in Norway).
- josteink 11y ago
  I was also surprised about that, and I'm from the Norway, Telenor's home-country of all places. But looking at Firefox OS, the truth is that it aims to enter mobile from the deep bottom of the market, especially in emerging markets where smartphones has yet to establish a foothold across society. From there it aims to work its way up, rather than trying to "win" the lucarative ends of the market from either Android or iOS. And in the Nordics, to be honest, we're just buying the highest end devices, and barely anything else. Firefox OS would (yet) not be able to compete in here. Maybe later, if it improves and matures, but only time can tell. But hey. This strategy once worked for Google. I kinda doubt it, but there's no reason Mozilla can't make it work for them too. After all, supporting Firefox OS, mostly consists of writing a proper web-app, and we're all making those anyway. And as a developer, god knows, I'd love to not to ever have relate to the Android API again if I could just deal with HTML and JS.
  - ams6110 11y ago
    Yeah I think this is smart strategy by Mozilla. Establish and prove the OS without having to break carrier lock-in of other OSes And as a developer, god knows, I'd love to not to ever have relate to the Android API again if I could just deal with HTML and JS. I'm not an android dev. Is it not possible to develop "HTML and JS" apps on that platform?
  - wodenokoto 11y ago
    Well, they did launch a high-end one in Japan. But I guess it's none-impression on the market speaks leaps and bounds to why that is not being replicated. Shortly after release I went to an AU store, and they initially didn't know what I was talking about but eventually found one in a drawer that was out of battery.
    - digi_owl 11y ago
      https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/12/22/mozilla-and-kddi-launch-first-firefox-os-smartphone-in-japan/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/12/22/mozilla-and-kddi-la... This thing? Would love to get my hands on one.
igravious 11y ago
Nice, where do you source the data? From Mozilla's publicity machine?
- ndesaulniers 11y ago
  Internal documents that keep track of the "official launch dates."
eddyb 11y ago
Minor UI issue: the map size doesn't update when resizing the window.
- ndesaulniers 11y ago
  Known issue [0], should be an easy fix. [0] https://github.com/nickdesaulniers/where-is-firefox-os/issues/4 https://github.com/nickdesaulniers/where-is-firefox-os/issue...

hiphopyo 11y ago

Could you possibly add an ETA to the countries where it's not at?

ndesaulniers 11y ago
heh, yeah, if I _had_ that information. When?! When?! One day, is that not enough for you?! One day he went dumb, one day I went blind, one day we'll go deaf, one day we were born, one day we shall die, the same day, the same second, is that not enough for you? They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

digi_owl 11y ago

I find it odd that it has yet to reach the Nordics, given that one of their big partners are Telenor (the former national monopoly in Norway).

josteink 11y ago
I was also surprised about that, and I'm from the Norway, Telenor's home-country of all places. But looking at Firefox OS, the truth is that it aims to enter mobile from the deep bottom of the market, especially in emerging markets where smartphones has yet to establish a foothold across society. From there it aims to work its way up, rather than trying to "win" the lucarative ends of the market from either Android or iOS. And in the Nordics, to be honest, we're just buying the highest end devices, and barely anything else. Firefox OS would (yet) not be able to compete in here. Maybe later, if it improves and matures, but only time can tell. But hey. This strategy once worked for Google. I kinda doubt it, but there's no reason Mozilla can't make it work for them too. After all, supporting Firefox OS, mostly consists of writing a proper web-app, and we're all making those anyway. And as a developer, god knows, I'd love to not to ever have relate to the Android API again if I could just deal with HTML and JS.
- ams6110 11y ago
  Yeah I think this is smart strategy by Mozilla. Establish and prove the OS without having to break carrier lock-in of other OSes And as a developer, god knows, I'd love to not to ever have relate to the Android API again if I could just deal with HTML and JS. I'm not an android dev. Is it not possible to develop "HTML and JS" apps on that platform?
- wodenokoto 11y ago
  Well, they did launch a high-end one in Japan. But I guess it's none-impression on the market speaks leaps and bounds to why that is not being replicated. Shortly after release I went to an AU store, and they initially didn't know what I was talking about but eventually found one in a drawer that was out of battery.
  - digi_owl 11y ago
    https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/12/22/mozilla-and-kddi-launch-first-firefox-os-smartphone-in-japan/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/12/22/mozilla-and-kddi-la... This thing? Would love to get my hands on one.

igravious 11y ago

Nice, where do you source the data? From Mozilla's publicity machine?

ndesaulniers 11y ago
Internal documents that keep track of the "official launch dates."

eddyb 11y ago

Minor UI issue: the map size doesn't update when resizing the window.

ndesaulniers 11y ago
Known issue [0], should be an easy fix. [0] https://github.com/nickdesaulniers/where-is-firefox-os/issues/4 https://github.com/nickdesaulniers/where-is-firefox-os/issue...