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Hey. Author here. Yes the tool would be open source and automate the process of registration. Alongside registration, it will borrow ideas from bugmenot where l

Hey. Author here. Yes the tool would be open source and automate the process of registration. Alongside registration, it will borrow ideas from bugmenot where logins are ranked according to whether they work or not. The only difference being that machine learning and other means are used to rank instead of an upvote system which is mostly unreliable. Keep in mind, there are inherent problems like T.O.S breaching so the tool would have to deal with them the right way, and through the right channels. Perhaps a standard could be implemented and sites could 'opt in' to having the skeleton key used on their site. So yeah - like open source infrastructure too.

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icebraining 11y ago
Would the proposed system use shared accounts, or automated new account registration for the user? If the former, I think the opt-in is a dead end. If the websites thought that was good for them, they'd enable anonymous use, and it even might be illegal for them to cooperate (e.g. they would be breaking COPPA by offering a way for under-13 to use the site without following the proper steps).
- signaler 11y ago
  It would use both shared accounts, and auto registration, which depend on how complex the registration system is and what requirements it has. For example, on sites which have lots of traffic it is preferable to have a swarm of newly registered accounts arriving all the time because of unreliable users of the account deleting it, changing the password etc. On less traffic'd sites it would be preferable to have a few small accounts. I've observed this on bugmenot...
whyleyc 11y ago
After reading the original post it's still not clear to me why you would want this tool - Would you mind explaining the motivation behind it ? As an end-user of sites I don't find registration a particularly onerous or annoying problem - signup, login, move along. As an operator of a few different sites the concept of users spamming the crap out of my registration system using automation is an annoyance I could do without.
- signaler 11y ago
  Seems more like an edge case. If you look at bugmenot, the system works beautifully, and I am still amazed at how well it works, and how long the logins work despite the system being a bit sneaky and breaching the T.O.S on sites where multiple accounts and account sharing are forbidden. I wouldn't propose the system if it was going to harm the web in some way, and I said before that we can standardize it so that webmasters can allow a skeleton key to be used. Sort of like try-before-you-buy mechanism. Most sites do not have the luxury of some anonymous-user function where we can login instantly and start seeing walled garden information

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icebraining 11y ago

Would the proposed system use shared accounts, or automated new account registration for the user? If the former, I think the opt-in is a dead end. If the websites thought that was good for them, they'd enable anonymous use, and it even might be illegal for them to cooperate (e.g. they would be breaking COPPA by offering a way for under-13 to use the site without following the proper steps).

signaler 11y ago
It would use both shared accounts, and auto registration, which depend on how complex the registration system is and what requirements it has. For example, on sites which have lots of traffic it is preferable to have a swarm of newly registered accounts arriving all the time because of unreliable users of the account deleting it, changing the password etc. On less traffic'd sites it would be preferable to have a few small accounts. I've observed this on bugmenot...

whyleyc 11y ago

After reading the original post it's still not clear to me why you would want this tool - Would you mind explaining the motivation behind it ? As an end-user of sites I don't find registration a particularly onerous or annoying problem - signup, login, move along. As an operator of a few different sites the concept of users spamming the crap out of my registration system using automation is an annoyance I could do without.

signaler 11y ago
Seems more like an edge case. If you look at bugmenot, the system works beautifully, and I am still amazed at how well it works, and how long the logins work despite the system being a bit sneaky and breaching the T.O.S on sites where multiple accounts and account sharing are forbidden. I wouldn't propose the system if it was going to harm the web in some way, and I said before that we can standardize it so that webmasters can allow a skeleton key to be used. Sort of like try-before-you-buy mechanism. Most sites do not have the luxury of some anonymous-user function where we can login instantly and start seeing walled garden information