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Do you really believe that it is more efficient to build a bike lane paved with solar panels, rather than a bike lane paved with asphalt and separate, dedicated

Do you really believe that it is more efficient to build a bike lane paved with solar panels, rather than a bike lane paved with asphalt and separate, dedicated solar facilitates? EDIT: Looking at the pictures others have posted you still have to use asphalt (or more likely concrete because you need better stability, which is even more expensive) underneath, so there really is nothing saved by doing this. What a waste of money.

drabiega 11y ago
How is the presence of asphalt underneath an issue? The deciding factor will be whether the marginal cost of a solar path over an asphalt path will be greater or less than building an equivalent solar facility. That seems like it could go either way.
- IkmoIkmo 11y ago
  Very good point. Plus even if the marginal cost is lower than a dedicated solar facility, we don't necessarily have that luxury. We do if we want just 5% sustainable energy, not a problem. But if we want 99% sustainable energy, surface area is a very tricky challenge [0] and so it'd be a matter of the one and the other, instead of the one or the other. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFosQtEqzSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFosQtEqzSE
woah 11y ago
Why are you so negative about research?
- maxerickson 11y ago
  Would you pay me to research the practicalities of installing solar panels in my basement? The arguments about this thing not making any sense aren't so far away from the arguments about my basement not being very sunny.
  - sosborn 11y ago
    >The arguments about this thing not making any sense aren't so far away from the arguments about my basement not being very sunny. Actually, they are. At its best, getting sunlight in your basement is impossible. For solar bike lanes, the worst possible outcome is that they are impractical. And that is a purely financial consideration. At some point the benefits of solar (regardless of cost) might outweigt the negatives of using fossil fuel.
    - maxerickson 11y ago
      You never know, I might live in a glass house. That it is observably impractical was the point I was trying to make.

drabiega 11y ago

How is the presence of asphalt underneath an issue? The deciding factor will be whether the marginal cost of a solar path over an asphalt path will be greater or less than building an equivalent solar facility. That seems like it could go either way.

IkmoIkmo 11y ago
Very good point. Plus even if the marginal cost is lower than a dedicated solar facility, we don't necessarily have that luxury. We do if we want just 5% sustainable energy, not a problem. But if we want 99% sustainable energy, surface area is a very tricky challenge [0] and so it'd be a matter of the one and the other, instead of the one or the other. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFosQtEqzSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFosQtEqzSE

woah 11y ago

Why are you so negative about research?

maxerickson 11y ago
Would you pay me to research the practicalities of installing solar panels in my basement? The arguments about this thing not making any sense aren't so far away from the arguments about my basement not being very sunny.
- sosborn 11y ago
  >The arguments about this thing not making any sense aren't so far away from the arguments about my basement not being very sunny. Actually, they are. At its best, getting sunlight in your basement is impossible. For solar bike lanes, the worst possible outcome is that they are impractical. And that is a purely financial consideration. At some point the benefits of solar (regardless of cost) might outweigt the negatives of using fossil fuel.
  - maxerickson 11y ago
    You never know, I might live in a glass house. That it is observably impractical was the point I was trying to make.