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Are you sure it's just a glass? I started like that and atleast in my case, I very much progressed far beyond moderate amounts in the span of 3 years.

by mildbow 11y ago

brianwawok 11y ago
I also drink moderately. Usually 1 drink per day. Once in a while 0. ~once a month 2. I think the most common forms of drinking are 0 or <too much>, but there are at least some people that moderate (I do).
- mod 11y ago
  I'm curious as to why you drink one drink per day. For me, drinking is mostly about feeling different from what I normally feel. Having one drink doesn't have any noticeable impact for me, so I virtually never have just one drink except in social situations or when I just think a beer will taste good with a meal, perhaps. I don't know where you draw the line of <too much>, or why you draw it there, but something more like 4 drinks is my norm--though my monthly consumption is likely far smaller than yours. FWIW, compared to my peers & family, I'm definitely drinking "in moderation," even on those nights!
  - wutbrodo 11y ago
    > For me, drinking is mostly about feeling different from what I normally feel. Having one drink doesn't have any noticeable impact for me, so I virtually never have just one drink except in social situations or when I just think a beer will taste good with a meal, perhaps. I'm not the person you asked but I'm in a similar position. Alcohol's effect on the body is as psychological as it is physiological, so even with one drink, I tap a little into those feelings of "unwinding". Throw in the fact that I'll drink beer or scotch that I really enjoy the taste of, and having a single drink is an easy way to have a nice, tasty bit of relaxation after a long day, while avoiding the disruption to my activities that 3+ drinks might entail.
mhurron 11y ago
You're projecting your own lack of self control to everyone else with no evidence to back it up.
- mildbow 11y ago
  I had a problem with self-awareness, not self-control. I thought I would be fine and could control myself so didn't really think about how much I was getting used to drinking. But it's frighteningly slippery slope. So, I was trying to allude to that. And, self-control isn't binary, it's a continuum: I thought myself as having lots of self-control, but I slipped into drinking way too much by starting with the habit of drinking regularly. Anyway, once I was aware as to how much really I was drinking, I stopped. Cold turkey. So I think that shows at least some self-control. If my comment makes anyone else re-examine exactly how much they drink consistently, I'm happy regardless of how much you think I'm projecting.
bmm6o 11y ago
You should have mentioned that you were extrapolating from a sample size of 1.
- mildbow 11y ago
  I did :) "atleast in my case"
bmm6o 11y ago
I don't know anything about your situation, but it really depends on what else is going on in your life. If you work a full day (or a little longer) go to the gym or participate in a hobby after work, drive home, cook and eat dinner, watch some TV (or whatever) and go to bed, there's not really time in there for more than 2 or 3 drinks unless you are really pushing yourself. If your routine involves going to happy hour with friends, eating out, taking Uber home, having a nightcap then yeah, you could easily do more than that without really trying.
- uptownJimmy 11y ago
  "2 or 3 drinks" is NOT moderation.
  - bmm6o 11y ago
    No, but that is at the high end of what is even possible in the scenario I was describing, and is meant to contrast with "far beyond moderate amounts" of parent. Parent seems to think that excessive drinking is the only kind, and I was just pointing out that with reasonable balance in life it's actually difficult for most people to drink to excess.
wutbrodo 11y ago
For the couple of them that I live with (either now or in the past), yea I'm sure. I have a glass of beer or scotch or wine in the evening ~once a week at work, and it doesn't seem hard to imagine people doing it every day (the reason I limit the days I do it has more to do with the fact that I control my nutrition fairly tightly).
- wutbrodo 11y ago
  That should say "once a week after work".

Are you sure it's just a glass? I started like that and atleast in my case, I very much progressed far beyond moderate amounts in the span of 3 years.

by mildbow 11y ago

Are you sure it's just a glass? I started like that and atleast in my case, I very much progressed far beyond moderate amounts in the span of 3 years.

brianwawok 11y ago

I also drink moderately. Usually 1 drink per day. Once in a while 0. ~once a month 2. I think the most common forms of drinking are 0 or <too much>, but there are at least some people that moderate (I do).

mod 11y ago
I'm curious as to why you drink one drink per day. For me, drinking is mostly about feeling different from what I normally feel. Having one drink doesn't have any noticeable impact for me, so I virtually never have just one drink except in social situations or when I just think a beer will taste good with a meal, perhaps. I don't know where you draw the line of <too much>, or why you draw it there, but something more like 4 drinks is my norm--though my monthly consumption is likely far smaller than yours. FWIW, compared to my peers & family, I'm definitely drinking "in moderation," even on those nights!
- wutbrodo 11y ago
  > For me, drinking is mostly about feeling different from what I normally feel. Having one drink doesn't have any noticeable impact for me, so I virtually never have just one drink except in social situations or when I just think a beer will taste good with a meal, perhaps. I'm not the person you asked but I'm in a similar position. Alcohol's effect on the body is as psychological as it is physiological, so even with one drink, I tap a little into those feelings of "unwinding". Throw in the fact that I'll drink beer or scotch that I really enjoy the taste of, and having a single drink is an easy way to have a nice, tasty bit of relaxation after a long day, while avoiding the disruption to my activities that 3+ drinks might entail.

mhurron 11y ago

You're projecting your own lack of self control to everyone else with no evidence to back it up.

mildbow 11y ago
I had a problem with self-awareness, not self-control. I thought I would be fine and could control myself so didn't really think about how much I was getting used to drinking. But it's frighteningly slippery slope. So, I was trying to allude to that. And, self-control isn't binary, it's a continuum: I thought myself as having lots of self-control, but I slipped into drinking way too much by starting with the habit of drinking regularly. Anyway, once I was aware as to how much really I was drinking, I stopped. Cold turkey. So I think that shows at least some self-control. If my comment makes anyone else re-examine exactly how much they drink consistently, I'm happy regardless of how much you think I'm projecting.

bmm6o 11y ago

You should have mentioned that you were extrapolating from a sample size of 1.

mildbow 11y ago
I did :) "atleast in my case"

bmm6o 11y ago

I don't know anything about your situation, but it really depends on what else is going on in your life. If you work a full day (or a little longer) go to the gym or participate in a hobby after work, drive home, cook and eat dinner, watch some TV (or whatever) and go to bed, there's not really time in there for more than 2 or 3 drinks unless you are really pushing yourself. If your routine involves going to happy hour with friends, eating out, taking Uber home, having a nightcap then yeah, you could easily do more than that without really trying.

uptownJimmy 11y ago
"2 or 3 drinks" is NOT moderation.
- bmm6o 11y ago
  No, but that is at the high end of what is even possible in the scenario I was describing, and is meant to contrast with "far beyond moderate amounts" of parent. Parent seems to think that excessive drinking is the only kind, and I was just pointing out that with reasonable balance in life it's actually difficult for most people to drink to excess.

wutbrodo 11y ago

For the couple of them that I live with (either now or in the past), yea I'm sure. I have a glass of beer or scotch or wine in the evening ~once a week at work, and it doesn't seem hard to imagine people doing it every day (the reason I limit the days I do it has more to do with the fact that I control my nutrition fairly tightly).

wutbrodo 11y ago
That should say "once a week after work".