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You're making a flawed assumption many people make: because many managers are poor managers, management is bad. Be careful what you wish for. A company without

You're making a flawed assumption many people make: because many managers are poor managers, management is bad. Be careful what you wish for. A company without management is like a boat without a captain. You might appear to be fine for some time, but eventually you'll be hopelessly adrift at sea.

BillinghamJ 11y ago
A company without management is not the same as a company without managers. Not having managers doesn't mean not having executives.
k__ 11y ago
Middle management just seem to be a bad process in many companies, not more not less. They shouldn't hate the players, but the game.
23david 11y ago
In my experience, a bad manager can be far worse than having no managers. A management-less company may end up being adrift at sea, but that's a far better alternative than running into an iceberg or sailing into pirate-infested waters.
logfromblammo 11y ago
The Costa Concordia had a captain.... A company without management may drift around aimlessly in Brownian motion, but at least it does not order "ahead flank" onto the rocks. There once was a manager, Who had a little curl, Right in the middle of her forehead. And when she was good, She was very, very good, But when she was bad, there were layoffs.
- deedub 11y ago
  ha! perfect. It's so interesting that I assume over all that was a negative comment from you, but so positive to me. My favorite leaders place bets like that! I'd rather believe in a leader and be a part of a team that all believe in the same idea so much that they accept that themselves or their comrades(Some with families!) jobs are on the line. But this means you have to be in a pretty transparent company. If everyone doesn't work together, with a hard time constraint, to achieve the shared vision they believe in it seems really hard to do amazing things at any sort of market dominating speed. I accept those bets happily.

BillinghamJ 11y ago

A company without management is not the same as a company without managers. Not having managers doesn't mean not having executives.

k__ 11y ago

Middle management just seem to be a bad process in many companies, not more not less. They shouldn't hate the players, but the game.

23david 11y ago

In my experience, a bad manager can be far worse than having no managers. A management-less company may end up being adrift at sea, but that's a far better alternative than running into an iceberg or sailing into pirate-infested waters.

logfromblammo 11y ago

The Costa Concordia had a captain.... A company without management may drift around aimlessly in Brownian motion, but at least it does not order "ahead flank" onto the rocks. There once was a manager, Who had a little curl, Right in the middle of her forehead. And when she was good, She was very, very good, But when she was bad, there were layoffs.

deedub 11y ago
ha! perfect. It's so interesting that I assume over all that was a negative comment from you, but so positive to me. My favorite leaders place bets like that! I'd rather believe in a leader and be a part of a team that all believe in the same idea so much that they accept that themselves or their comrades(Some with families!) jobs are on the line. But this means you have to be in a pretty transparent company. If everyone doesn't work together, with a hard time constraint, to achieve the shared vision they believe in it seems really hard to do amazing things at any sort of market dominating speed. I accept those bets happily.