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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines not being snarky; i think this one is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines not being snarky; i think this one is a clear 'No.'

stephengillie 11y ago
"No" usually is the correct answer to a Betteridge Headline.
Hytosys 11y ago
This is a bullshit response. Did you not read the article? It offers a fair share of proven optimism.
- classicsnoot 11y ago
  Wow, tiger. First off, i stand by my assessment. IMO if the bias were to be stripped from the Justice System, that would mean firing literally everyone and building a new one using computers and duct tape which, as every school child knows, have no bias. Secondly, "fair share of proven optimism"? In my head that translates to, "we think that maybe this might help a little"... so... the answer is still 'No.'. Just my $0.02
  - Hytosys 11y ago
    >Secondly, "fair share of proven optimism"? In my head that translates to, "we think that maybe this might help a little"... That clearly translates to "no, I still haven't read the article."
    - classicsnoot 11y ago
      Ok. Having reread the entire thing twice (just for you) i can positively say that i stand by my "no." The phrase "reduce subconscious bias" appears multiple times with no explanation as to how that may actually work. This is a classic case of top down initiative. The leaders can say whatever they want; it is the foot soldiers that implement policy. As long as there is an entrenched, aged constabulary educating the new recruits, the inherent biases of thugs with badges will continue.
- classicsnoot 11y ago
  Can you point specifically to the cases of "proven optimism"?
  - Hytosys 11y ago
    The two studies: the first stating that you can reduce amygdala activity through systematic humanization, and the second suggesting that there seems to be nothing in the police training programs that makes officers more biased than the average citizen. These offer hope to the idea that biased behavior can be targeted and modified. I agree with your other comment, though. There are many unaddressed questions regarding policy and its implementation. In my head, we would see progress as a society if we taught empathy and unconscious bias from a young age. Police academies would likely benefit from similar courses (it is my understanding that some program do indeed integrate this training). Thanks for responding, and I'm sorry for being inflammatory. These are ideas I am passionate about.
    - classicsnoot 11y ago
      Your passion is a good thing. I should have been less crass, but as Betteridge's law is new to me I rather childishly pointed and exclaimed. I thought that observation about systematic humanization was fucking awesome. That would appear to be a concrete way to normalize interactions between strangers. For the record, I really don't like the police as an institution... but I recognize that that is a bias I maintain. Maybe cops should have a monthly pot luck get together. Watching the citizenry eat and play might foster a bit of that empathy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines not being snarky; i think this one is a clear 'No.'

stephengillie 11y ago

"No" usually is the correct answer to a Betteridge Headline.

Hytosys 11y ago

This is a bullshit response. Did you not read the article? It offers a fair share of proven optimism.

classicsnoot 11y ago
Wow, tiger. First off, i stand by my assessment. IMO if the bias were to be stripped from the Justice System, that would mean firing literally everyone and building a new one using computers and duct tape which, as every school child knows, have no bias. Secondly, "fair share of proven optimism"? In my head that translates to, "we think that maybe this might help a little"... so... the answer is still 'No.'. Just my $0.02
- Hytosys 11y ago
  >Secondly, "fair share of proven optimism"? In my head that translates to, "we think that maybe this might help a little"... That clearly translates to "no, I still haven't read the article."
  - classicsnoot 11y ago
    Ok. Having reread the entire thing twice (just for you) i can positively say that i stand by my "no." The phrase "reduce subconscious bias" appears multiple times with no explanation as to how that may actually work. This is a classic case of top down initiative. The leaders can say whatever they want; it is the foot soldiers that implement policy. As long as there is an entrenched, aged constabulary educating the new recruits, the inherent biases of thugs with badges will continue.
classicsnoot 11y ago
Can you point specifically to the cases of "proven optimism"?
- Hytosys 11y ago
  The two studies: the first stating that you can reduce amygdala activity through systematic humanization, and the second suggesting that there seems to be nothing in the police training programs that makes officers more biased than the average citizen. These offer hope to the idea that biased behavior can be targeted and modified. I agree with your other comment, though. There are many unaddressed questions regarding policy and its implementation. In my head, we would see progress as a society if we taught empathy and unconscious bias from a young age. Police academies would likely benefit from similar courses (it is my understanding that some program do indeed integrate this training). Thanks for responding, and I'm sorry for being inflammatory. These are ideas I am passionate about.
  - classicsnoot 11y ago
    Your passion is a good thing. I should have been less crass, but as Betteridge's law is new to me I rather childishly pointed and exclaimed. I thought that observation about systematic humanization was fucking awesome. That would appear to be a concrete way to normalize interactions between strangers. For the record, I really don't like the police as an institution... but I recognize that that is a bias I maintain. Maybe cops should have a monthly pot luck get together. Watching the citizenry eat and play might foster a bit of that empathy.