> I don't agree that brains can learn on their own, unsupervised. Facts don't require your agreement. They're still facts. You're suggesting that the "2 decad

> I don't agree that brains can learn on their own, unsupervised. Facts don't require your agreement. They're still facts. You're suggesting that the "2 decades of hardware tuning" is equivalent to programming, and that just isn't the case. While parents definitely provide instruction, each child's brain is fully on its own to program itself. It teaches itself how to make sense of the visual signals it's receiving from the retina... no one teaches a child up from down, how shading and colors differ, how to use both eyes in tandem to provide depth perception. It's all automatic and 'magical' in a way, because literally NOTHING you can do as a parent can speed that process up in any meaningful way. The same is true for hearing. You can't just upload your current understanding of the world... the closest you can come is by trying to help them along mechanically, by holding them up as they 'walk' their legs, for instance, but their brain is still figuring it out entirely independently. Showing the child how to move their legs is NOT the equivalent of showing them how to detect orientation using their inner ear, or teaching them how to send impulses to their muscles in the right order and at the right time, or teaching them to predict momentum so that they don't just fall on their face. > computer learning is orders of magnitude more effective than human learning The only reason one could even ATTEMPT to make that claim is that a computer's learning is something that can be copied digitally. A single machine can't even approach the learning abilities of the brain. Computers are so fundamentally different that it's not even a fair comparison to the computer... the brain will win every time. > I find it very strange that people leave out the 2 decades of hardware tuning and supervised knowledge building that humans get It's because it just isn't relevant. Take the most advanced AI available today, slap it in a robot and spend 2 decades raising it. I guarantee it won't end up anywhere close to a human in abilities or intelligence. If you can't see that, you're being intentionally obtuse.