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>an insanely inappropriate and disproportionate legal travesty That is just about every case ever. Even the really bad people, the ones you and I and everyone

>an insanely inappropriate and disproportionate legal travesty That is just about every case ever. Even the really bad people, the ones you and I and everyone else reading this agree deserve to be locked behind bars, have their charges trumped up far beyond what they are actually guilty of in an attempt to coerce them to take a plea bargain for lesser charges. To put another way, they are successfully punishing most people for insisting on their right to a fair trial.

ohitsdom 12y ago
Every case ever has had inappropriate and disproportionate trial/punishment? That's a very outlandish statement. Are you referring to a specific type of crime? A good argument can be made that this is true for many marijuana cases. But you seem to be talking about all crimes...
- Lawtonfogle 12y ago
  You missed my 'just about'. And while it might be a little overstated (I haven't seen anyone do a massive sampling to compare what the charges were compared to what they should've been, which is probably a bit subjective), I would consider it in the majority of cases based on the anecdotes I've seen. Anecdotes are definitely imperfect and worse than peer reviewed science, but lacking the latter, the former is better than nothing.
  - ohitsdom 12y ago
    "Just about" doesn't leave much room for variation. But I get your point, and the link zimpenfish posted actually supports your opinion fairly well. My initial knee-jerk reaction against your original comment seems to have been off base. Which is sad for the state of our justice system...
- zimpenfish 12y ago
  http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/can-the-baltimore-prosecutor-win-her-case/392489/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/can-the-... "I love how surprised people are by the fact that a prosecutor may have overcharged. This is something prosecutors do all the time, as a strategic choice, for various reasons" (edited to put the 's' back on 'reasons')
  - ohitsdom 12y ago
    Good info, thanks.

ohitsdom 12y ago

Every case ever has had inappropriate and disproportionate trial/punishment? That's a very outlandish statement. Are you referring to a specific type of crime? A good argument can be made that this is true for many marijuana cases. But you seem to be talking about all crimes...

Lawtonfogle 12y ago
You missed my 'just about'. And while it might be a little overstated (I haven't seen anyone do a massive sampling to compare what the charges were compared to what they should've been, which is probably a bit subjective), I would consider it in the majority of cases based on the anecdotes I've seen. Anecdotes are definitely imperfect and worse than peer reviewed science, but lacking the latter, the former is better than nothing.
- ohitsdom 12y ago
  "Just about" doesn't leave much room for variation. But I get your point, and the link zimpenfish posted actually supports your opinion fairly well. My initial knee-jerk reaction against your original comment seems to have been off base. Which is sad for the state of our justice system...
zimpenfish 12y ago
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/can-the-baltimore-prosecutor-win-her-case/392489/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/can-the-... "I love how surprised people are by the fact that a prosecutor may have overcharged. This is something prosecutors do all the time, as a strategic choice, for various reasons" (edited to put the 's' back on 'reasons')
- ohitsdom 12y ago
  Good info, thanks.