Thanks, that is educational. You are right, at this level of discussion I only have 2nd opinions ... Yet seemingly there are academics that disagree with you,

Thanks, that is educational. You are right, at this level of discussion I only have 2nd opinions ... Yet seemingly there are academics that disagree with you, in plain english - http://www.jstor.org/pss/3291643 http://www.jstor.org/pss/3291643. It does raise the question about how well we can know what people meant and felt 2000yrs ago, particularly in this case given the political context.