"we don't want to live in a world without policemen" No need for binary thinking. We already no longer have policemen, we have infantry soldiers trained in ur

"we don't want to live in a world without policemen" No need for binary thinking. We already no longer have policemen, we have infantry soldiers trained in urban combat with "shoot first ask questions later" rules of engagement and military weapons, deployed with an us vs them attitude, considerable deeply embedded racism issues, and a strong organizational opposition to respecting the occupied area's resident's civil rights. Or, in summary, it sucks. I agree with you, in part, its not as bad as having no order at all, which is hardly the only alternative to what we have now. I'd like living in an area with a police force. Military occupation force, not so good. But "real cops" would be OK.