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What is the motivation for Lenovo to keep making that software? I can't imagine it would be cheap for them, and I find it hard to believe people buy their produ

by yuncun 11y ago

What is the motivation for Lenovo to keep making that software? I can't imagine it would be cheap for them, and I find it hard to believe people buy their products for the preinstalled software; Are there other reasons?

diminoten 11y ago
I'd bet the folks who make those kinds of decisions think that people do buy their hardware at least in part due to their software offerings. Patently absurd, I know, but when you drink enough Kool-Aid...
hackuser 11y ago
A guess: Lenovo is trying to differentiate the experience of using their computers from that of competitors. When all vendors sell products running the same OS, with essentially the same keyboard, screen, processor, etc., their products become commodities and margins disappear; consumers will buy whatever costs least. If consumers associate a special experience with your product, you might be able to charge a little more or at least have some brand loyalty.
- yellowapple 11y ago
  For me, though, the "special experience" is hardware reliability and ease of maintenance, which is why I typically buy either Dell or Lenovo and avoid HP like the plague. Reliable hardware is the real differentiator for me, and I'm sure I'm not alone (though probably part of a minority of shoppers). One could also differentiate by focusing on a custom-tailored UI/UX. This is a bit harder to do with Windows than it is with Linux (including Android), though.
  - hackuser 11y ago
    > the "special experience" is hardware reliability and ease of maintenance, which is why I typically buy either Dell or Lenovo and avoid HP like the plague. I have the same priorities, but how do you know which vendor's hardware is more reliable? All we have is anecdotal experiences. FWIW my experience is that HP's business product lines are most reliable, and Dell's business lines have relatively many quality issues. The HP Elite laptops have exceptional serviceability (better than any I've seen -- find a video and just look at how the laptop case opens for service) and tech support. > I'm sure I'm not alone (though probably part of a minority of shoppers). Consumers buy on price, but the priorities of business IT departments are similar to yours: reliability, serviceability, and support; the costs of downtime and skilled labor for repairs far exceed the savings from buying cheap machines. Each vendor sells consumer (e.g., Dell Inspiron), and business (e.g., Dell Latitude) product lines. Maybe try shopping the products they sell to corporate IT; those match your priorites. They cost more, but you get what you pay for.
task_queue 11y ago
Profiling, advertising, avenues to offer their owner services or partners services.

by yuncun 11y ago

diminoten 11y ago

I'd bet the folks who make those kinds of decisions think that people do buy their hardware at least in part due to their software offerings. Patently absurd, I know, but when you drink enough Kool-Aid...

hackuser 11y ago

A guess: Lenovo is trying to differentiate the experience of using their computers from that of competitors. When all vendors sell products running the same OS, with essentially the same keyboard, screen, processor, etc., their products become commodities and margins disappear; consumers will buy whatever costs least. If consumers associate a special experience with your product, you might be able to charge a little more or at least have some brand loyalty.

yellowapple 11y ago
For me, though, the "special experience" is hardware reliability and ease of maintenance, which is why I typically buy either Dell or Lenovo and avoid HP like the plague. Reliable hardware is the real differentiator for me, and I'm sure I'm not alone (though probably part of a minority of shoppers). One could also differentiate by focusing on a custom-tailored UI/UX. This is a bit harder to do with Windows than it is with Linux (including Android), though.
- hackuser 11y ago
  > the "special experience" is hardware reliability and ease of maintenance, which is why I typically buy either Dell or Lenovo and avoid HP like the plague. I have the same priorities, but how do you know which vendor's hardware is more reliable? All we have is anecdotal experiences. FWIW my experience is that HP's business product lines are most reliable, and Dell's business lines have relatively many quality issues. The HP Elite laptops have exceptional serviceability (better than any I've seen -- find a video and just look at how the laptop case opens for service) and tech support. > I'm sure I'm not alone (though probably part of a minority of shoppers). Consumers buy on price, but the priorities of business IT departments are similar to yours: reliability, serviceability, and support; the costs of downtime and skilled labor for repairs far exceed the savings from buying cheap machines. Each vendor sells consumer (e.g., Dell Inspiron), and business (e.g., Dell Latitude) product lines. Maybe try shopping the products they sell to corporate IT; those match your priorites. They cost more, but you get what you pay for.

task_queue 11y ago

Profiling, advertising, avenues to offer their owner services or partners services.