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* Huh? The AI effect ? What is consciousness? Give me the full detail of it and create it right now from matter. You can't. So, there is still much to be unders

* Huh? The AI effect ? What is consciousness? Give me the full detail of it and create it right now from matter. You can't. So, there is still much to be understood. No one is claiming magic. What is being said is that you can't keep doing the same thing hoping for different results. Think different. You think consciousness just consists of some neural nets? K, think the same and good luck. "Huh? All of the people advocating AI safety are saying to invest in making AI safe, not to ban AI research." > Huh? the issue is : no one even knows what true 'Strong/General' A.I is. Are human beings safe? Look at all of the idiotic things we do. Look at what some of the most monied of us do. Furthermore, who restricted them on building their empires of other people's data and weak A.I analytics therein? Nobody. They made up the rules as they went, many times after-the-fact... That's 'business' right? and the same is going to be so for the progression to AGI.. We still don't understand how memory is stored in the human brain. So, how can you restrict research into it? No one even understands it. Thus, you can't. Everyone is free to do as they please in way of research and there's nothing anyone can do about it. * As for human cloning, can you say as a definite that no one in a dark lab isn't experimenting on it? No. You can't. As I recall, stem cell research was banned and it ended up in Singapore. Now, it's everywhere. Life, as it were, goes on. No silly amount of money or consortium can stop it. Are you seriously suggesting some kind of conspiracy by "weak AI" people to prevent the development of AGI by manipulating the media? > I'm seriously highlighting the ignorance of going on about something you don't understand and trying to restrict it. Who restricted social media? Who restricted mass data collection? Analytic? Who studied the negative societal effects they have? They just did it and went w/ it.. But, all of a sudden, it's time to put restrictions on A.I? Poppycock. When AGI is broken into, the [run] button will be hit and that will be that. What, is Elon Musk going to pull the plug? Provide me some definite way you can restrict the coming of AGI and I'll resign my view. I frankly don't care what drives people to 'fear' it. Give me detail on how the least of those who understand it can stop it.

Houshalter 11y ago
If consciousness even turns out to be a real thing, it probably isn't extremely complicated. I'm not claiming that neural networks are AGI, but they are significant progress towards it. >Are human beings safe? They have empathy and don't have unlimited power, so yes for the most part. But that's not really relevant. >So, how can you restrict research into it? No one even understands it. Thus, you can't. Everyone is free to do as they please in way of research and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Again I'm not advocating for it, but if the government wanted to ban AI research, they could. Sure rebels could study in secret, just like they can with human cloning or bioweapons, nukes, etc. But for the most part lone rebels working on their own in secret never accomplish anything and real work requires funding and peer review. >But, all of a sudden, it's time to put restrictions on A.I? Poppycock. When AGI is broken into, the [run] button will be hit and that will be that. What, is Elon Musk going to pull the plug? Provide me some definite way you can restrict the coming of AGI and I'll resign my view. Again, we aren't trying to stop AI, that was something you brought up. We are trying to create "Friendly AI", i.e. AI that shares human values and won't simply turn the universe into paperclips. And it's very important that we solve this problem before we invent working AI.

Houshalter 11y ago

If consciousness even turns out to be a real thing, it probably isn't extremely complicated. I'm not claiming that neural networks are AGI, but they are significant progress towards it. >Are human beings safe? They have empathy and don't have unlimited power, so yes for the most part. But that's not really relevant. >So, how can you restrict research into it? No one even understands it. Thus, you can't. Everyone is free to do as they please in way of research and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Again I'm not advocating for it, but if the government wanted to ban AI research, they could. Sure rebels could study in secret, just like they can with human cloning or bioweapons, nukes, etc. But for the most part lone rebels working on their own in secret never accomplish anything and real work requires funding and peer review. >But, all of a sudden, it's time to put restrictions on A.I? Poppycock. When AGI is broken into, the [run] button will be hit and that will be that. What, is Elon Musk going to pull the plug? Provide me some definite way you can restrict the coming of AGI and I'll resign my view. Again, we aren't trying to stop AI, that was something you brought up. We are trying to create "Friendly AI", i.e. AI that shares human values and won't simply turn the universe into paperclips. And it's very important that we solve this problem before we invent working AI.