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For everyone who is currently loosing productivity, perhaps your time might be well spent reviewing `git daemon`: http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Serve

For everyone who is currently loosing productivity, perhaps your time might be well spent reviewing `git daemon`: http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Git-Daemon http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Git-Daemon

sp4ke 11y ago
Or setup Gitlab for bigger teams, they even offer a Docker image.
- znpy 11y ago
  There's even an AMI image for Amazon ec2 hosts IIRC, which brings down the costs when coupled with a reserved instance.
  - jobvandervoort 11y ago
    You can also run `sudo apt-get / yum install gitlab-ce` nowadays.
  - sytse 11y ago
    You remember correctly, it is available on https://about.gitlab.com/aws/ https://about.gitlab.com/aws/
Xylakant 11y ago
how does that help for the long long lists of external dependencies, for the bugtrackers of projects where I'd like to look up if someone else had the same issue and maybe there's a workaround, to view and compare code for older revisions of projects I'm using? With a ton of projects now hosted on github, github being down is a major dent in my overall productivity even though we _do_ have an internal git server.
- DCoder 11y ago
  For repositories your projects depend on, you can set up a local proxy so you at least have local copies for continuous integration. E.g. PHP's Composer project has _Toran_ and _Satis_ for this: http://tech.m6web.fr/composer-installation-without-github.html http://tech.m6web.fr/composer-installation-without-github.ht...
  - Xylakant 11y ago
    doesn't give me easy access to the source, browseable and searchable, I can't link to it when discussing with a colleague via chat, can't browse the docs and the wiki and I can't update them. It's a minor advantage at the cost of running yet another piece in my infrastructure that may die or exhibit problems. We use nexus as a proxy for various repositories and so far I've had nexus down more often than github.
    - _asummers 11y ago
      You can host your own Nexus servers, for whatever that's worth, if you were unaware. Again, adding more infrastructure, but it at least solves the "it's down on the internet!" problem.
      - Xylakant 11y ago
        we are hosting our own nexus servers - but they tend to have issues of their own. Bugs, repositories get broken, storage full, machines down for maintenance and patching, yadda yadda. Githubs track record at being up is better than our nexus track record.
kjjw 11y ago
OK I get what you're saying, but honestly, who is really 'losing productivity'? I suspect the ones saying they are in fact just getting on with other tasks they can do because they are, despite github, still using distributed version control and do have access to and the ability to commit to code repositories. You don't need to host your own git daemon or github clone to get that functionality. I don't use github because it gives me a git daemon. I use it because the interface allows me interact with non-technical people when dealing with code and resources. I use github because, even though it is down right now, my stuff is backed up, I don't have to deal with the nitty gritty of ensuring backups succeed, I don't have to deal with the system when it goes down - someone else does that for me. Hence I would never want to run a local github clone.
- kmfrk 11y ago
  It kinda sucks when you rely on continuous integration, though.
  - ad-hominem 11y ago
    Can't you just run your tests locally?
- vacri 11y ago
  I guess no-one else has deployment scripts that pull from github, just because you don't have them.
  - zymhan 11y ago
    GitHub isn't made for that though, if you need scripts to pull downm files for important work, then you should really be storing that stuff in S3. And probably some other place you can switch to if something goes wrong.
    - _asummers 11y ago
      Someone pushed code to master or some other specified pre-master branch. Jenkins pulls down, builds, runs tests, uploads artifacts to S3. That doesn't sound unrealistic or risky on the surface, modulo relying on both GH and S3 being up. Arguably you should be able to mirror on both an internal git repository somewhere, but GitHub is down infrequently enough that it's hard to justify that work + continuing costs if you don't have your own hardware + security patching + other admin costs to managers until you see multiple outages in a small enough window.
chr1 11y ago
This is very useful for people who do not like browsing HN. And want to have something more worklike to do when their git server goes down.
gflandre 11y ago
For everyone who is currently losing productivity, perhaps you should close your HN tab
- cositarica 11y ago
  hey, I just met you and this is crazy, but here's my number, so call me maybe WALTER MERCADO
- dalanmiller 11y ago
  ^ /thread
kpcyrd 11y ago
git daemon isn't encrypted, you might consider using regular git over ssh instead.

sp4ke 11y ago

Or setup Gitlab for bigger teams, they even offer a Docker image.

znpy 11y ago
There's even an AMI image for Amazon ec2 hosts IIRC, which brings down the costs when coupled with a reserved instance.
- jobvandervoort 11y ago
  You can also run `sudo apt-get / yum install gitlab-ce` nowadays.
- sytse 11y ago
  You remember correctly, it is available on https://about.gitlab.com/aws/ https://about.gitlab.com/aws/

Xylakant 11y ago

how does that help for the long long lists of external dependencies, for the bugtrackers of projects where I'd like to look up if someone else had the same issue and maybe there's a workaround, to view and compare code for older revisions of projects I'm using? With a ton of projects now hosted on github, github being down is a major dent in my overall productivity even though we _do_ have an internal git server.

DCoder 11y ago
For repositories your projects depend on, you can set up a local proxy so you at least have local copies for continuous integration. E.g. PHP's Composer project has _Toran_ and _Satis_ for this: http://tech.m6web.fr/composer-installation-without-github.html http://tech.m6web.fr/composer-installation-without-github.ht...
- Xylakant 11y ago
  doesn't give me easy access to the source, browseable and searchable, I can't link to it when discussing with a colleague via chat, can't browse the docs and the wiki and I can't update them. It's a minor advantage at the cost of running yet another piece in my infrastructure that may die or exhibit problems. We use nexus as a proxy for various repositories and so far I've had nexus down more often than github.
  - _asummers 11y ago
    You can host your own Nexus servers, for whatever that's worth, if you were unaware. Again, adding more infrastructure, but it at least solves the "it's down on the internet!" problem.
    - Xylakant 11y ago
      we are hosting our own nexus servers - but they tend to have issues of their own. Bugs, repositories get broken, storage full, machines down for maintenance and patching, yadda yadda. Githubs track record at being up is better than our nexus track record.

kjjw 11y ago

OK I get what you're saying, but honestly, who is really 'losing productivity'? I suspect the ones saying they are in fact just getting on with other tasks they can do because they are, despite github, still using distributed version control and do have access to and the ability to commit to code repositories. You don't need to host your own git daemon or github clone to get that functionality. I don't use github because it gives me a git daemon. I use it because the interface allows me interact with non-technical people when dealing with code and resources. I use github because, even though it is down right now, my stuff is backed up, I don't have to deal with the nitty gritty of ensuring backups succeed, I don't have to deal with the system when it goes down - someone else does that for me. Hence I would never want to run a local github clone.

kmfrk 11y ago
It kinda sucks when you rely on continuous integration, though.
- ad-hominem 11y ago
  Can't you just run your tests locally?
vacri 11y ago
I guess no-one else has deployment scripts that pull from github, just because you don't have them.
- zymhan 11y ago
  GitHub isn't made for that though, if you need scripts to pull downm files for important work, then you should really be storing that stuff in S3. And probably some other place you can switch to if something goes wrong.
  - _asummers 11y ago
    Someone pushed code to master or some other specified pre-master branch. Jenkins pulls down, builds, runs tests, uploads artifacts to S3. That doesn't sound unrealistic or risky on the surface, modulo relying on both GH and S3 being up. Arguably you should be able to mirror on both an internal git repository somewhere, but GitHub is down infrequently enough that it's hard to justify that work + continuing costs if you don't have your own hardware + security patching + other admin costs to managers until you see multiple outages in a small enough window.

chr1 11y ago

This is very useful for people who do not like browsing HN. And want to have something more worklike to do when their git server goes down.

gflandre 11y ago

For everyone who is currently losing productivity, perhaps you should close your HN tab

cositarica 11y ago
hey, I just met you and this is crazy, but here's my number, so call me maybe WALTER MERCADO
dalanmiller 11y ago
^ /thread

kpcyrd 11y ago

git daemon isn't encrypted, you might consider using regular git over ssh instead.