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Apparently Bill Maris of Google Ventures hadn't yet spoken to David Byttow of Secret when he spoke to New York Times. He changed his mind after the conversation
by nrao123 11y ago
Apparently Bill Maris of Google Ventures hadn't yet spoken to David Byttow of Secret when he spoke to New York Times. He changed his mind after the conversation with Byttow. Its only fair on NYT's part to reprint the Maris's updated note which basically takes back everything he told NYT.
https://medium.com/gv-notes/a-few-thoughts-on-secret-3cb50a338fae https://medium.com/gv-notes/a-few-thoughts-on-secret-3cb50a3...
Here’s the text of an email I sent to Mike Isaac at the NY Times earlier, and thought it was important to share this context and nuance.
Hi Mike,
Regarding the article on Secret earlier today:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/the-lessons-google-ventures-learned-from-secret/ http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/the-lessons-google-...
I want to correct and amend a few things. I wanted to let you know how my views had evolved since we spoke. I aspire to be someone that says when that’s the case and it is here.
I hadn’t spoken to David Byttow when you and I chatted, and I should have done that. I’ve spoken to him now and have a better understanding of things.
We weren’t part of the secondary. I don’t know what the agreement was among David, Chrys Bader and those that did. And I don’t know the status now — maybe they’ve returned the money, maybe they don’t need to or can’t. But even if they returned all of the money, it wouldn’t affect GV, as we didn’t participate.
I do want to make clear that this was not a “bank heist,” and that was a poor choice of words on my part.
That implies that the founders were trying to line their pockets at the expense of others. After having a heart to heart with David, I don’t think that’s true. David rightly pointed out to me that he and Chrys worked extremely hard. They built something that captured the imagination of a lot of people and had a huge amount of users. The tone and content of my comments as printed don’t pay the appropriate respect to that fact.
As a fund, one thing remains true — we are not excited about founders selling stock early in a company’s life cycle. It provokes the question — if founder’s are sellers, why would we or others be buyers.
As for it not being “sustainable,” there is no way to ascribe that to the founders any more than the million other reasons a start up can fail. This one did. But credit to the founders for not just running out the clock and spending all the money — and instead returning some capital to investors rather than running it into the ground. That takes bravery. It doesn’t happen often.
As I now understand, David is doing a lot to make it as right as he can with his investors and employees. I’m glad your article sparked the conversation that had enough truth in it to help me evolve my opinions to some that I think are more correct.
Best,
Bill
- ChuckMcM 11y agoAnd the weird thing is, I would not be surprised if Maris actually did believe it was a "bank heist" to take that money off the table when they did, but realizes that he might have to work with these guys again in the future (or might want to) and so he must try to un-say what was said. I'm also not surprised that Byttow and Bader would feel they deserved that payout for the work they had put into the project to date. There is a unique kind of point of view I've seen when folks have dealt with a lot of negativity about what they are doing, and then suddenly it is the new hot thing. You're burning up your lifeblood into your startup, and some rich guy comes along and says "Hey, really? You going to just skim that cream for yourself?" But what it really illustrates how the startup founders and the funding folks are not really aligned. The funders want to see a big return on their investment, the founders want (in part) to get rich, since the money involved is the same, you have two groups pulling it in two different ways. Hence the lack of alignment. Everyone comes out of this a bit wiser, and with an appreciation for what is at stake, and the next time it goes differently. Everyone's thinking "evolves." Usually though, it isn't so public. Lesson #1 - yes you can take too much funding in a round. Lesson #2 - nobody's perfect, and everyone is learning. Lesson #3 - Reactions are just as important in understanding someone's character as their actions are.
- mcherm 11y agoActually, I'm not sure your lesson #1 applies in this instance. They GAVE BACK the extra.
- ChuckMcM 11y agoTrue they gave back the extra, but their startup is dead. The impact of too much money raised is a lack of focus, after doing so much on so little, it is easy to feel like you can do anything with a huge pile of money. And instead of accelerating the current thing out the door, a half dozen new things get started which slows everything down. You can see this on kickstarter campaigns where there are "features" that are added if they get more money, but often the features are much more costly to implement than the delta in money between not-implement and implement. If you've been in that situation before you recognize they are setting themselves up bruising.