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That's interesting. The opposite effect is quite common as well: there were numerous recent cases in the news where overweight people would consider themselves

That's interesting. The opposite effect is quite common as well: there were numerous recent cases in the news where overweight people would consider themselves beautiful and normal. Some of them even coined the term "fat shaming" for the people who are trying to tell them the truth!

markc 11y ago
I'm assuming this is snark, and you know full well that body acceptance is not the same thing as body dysmorphic disorder. Not nice.
- k__ 11y ago
  It isn't, the problem is where does the one end and the other one start. Most people have different opinions about what is a healthy body, even health professionals.
NoMoreNicksLeft 11y ago
What is "beautiful" that fat people aren't allowed to consider themselves such? Those who gripe about such things have their own cognitive distortion... they have ingrained behaviors to value physical attractiveness (and fitness) beyond any utility it might provide them. Are you going to hate the fat girl's personality so much that you can't stand her? Probably not. (Apologies for being crude) Is her pussy going to feel like sandpaper on your dick? Probably not. You mistreat such people because you're afraid that if you were to become involved with them, your social status would decline. But the only reason humans care about that is because of mating prospects. Your truths are subjective, and self-harming.
- shredprez 11y ago
  Fitness and fatness have a subjective relationship with beauty, but there is an objective relationship between extremes in weight (from over- or under-eating) and health. While the exact relationship is a little different for each of us, eating too much or too little is unhealthy for everyone. Which is why this notion that weight can only be criticized or celebrated in the context of beauty is nonsense. You can be both beautiful and deeply unhealthy. And that's what weight really is, a health issue. Hijacking genuine conversations about health and turning them into philosophical conversations about beauty is intellectually dishonest. It's easy to dismiss subjective opinions about beauty. It's difficult to address society-wide failures with weight management. If we eradicated behaviors like starving and binging, issues of unhealthy beauty standards would nearly evaporate. That's the kind of social goal we should all be working to accomplish.
userbinator 11y ago
There are also many more whose weight is in the normal range, but their "setpoint" is such that they consider themselves too skinny or too fat.

markc 11y ago

I'm assuming this is snark, and you know full well that body acceptance is not the same thing as body dysmorphic disorder. Not nice.

k__ 11y ago
It isn't, the problem is where does the one end and the other one start. Most people have different opinions about what is a healthy body, even health professionals.

NoMoreNicksLeft 11y ago

What is "beautiful" that fat people aren't allowed to consider themselves such? Those who gripe about such things have their own cognitive distortion... they have ingrained behaviors to value physical attractiveness (and fitness) beyond any utility it might provide them. Are you going to hate the fat girl's personality so much that you can't stand her? Probably not. (Apologies for being crude) Is her pussy going to feel like sandpaper on your dick? Probably not. You mistreat such people because you're afraid that if you were to become involved with them, your social status would decline. But the only reason humans care about that is because of mating prospects. Your truths are subjective, and self-harming.

shredprez 11y ago
Fitness and fatness have a subjective relationship with beauty, but there is an objective relationship between extremes in weight (from over- or under-eating) and health. While the exact relationship is a little different for each of us, eating too much or too little is unhealthy for everyone. Which is why this notion that weight can only be criticized or celebrated in the context of beauty is nonsense. You can be both beautiful and deeply unhealthy. And that's what weight really is, a health issue. Hijacking genuine conversations about health and turning them into philosophical conversations about beauty is intellectually dishonest. It's easy to dismiss subjective opinions about beauty. It's difficult to address society-wide failures with weight management. If we eradicated behaviors like starving and binging, issues of unhealthy beauty standards would nearly evaporate. That's the kind of social goal we should all be working to accomplish.

userbinator 11y ago

There are also many more whose weight is in the normal range, but their "setpoint" is such that they consider themselves too skinny or too fat.