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No. Matthew Dillon doesn't need to work but keeps working on DragonFlyBSD. Also it is possible to live and work as in retirement http://www.noogenesis.com/pi

No. Matthew Dillon doesn't need to work but keeps working on DragonFlyBSD. Also it is possible to live and work as in retirement http://www.noogenesis.com/pineapple/fisherman.html http://www.noogenesis.com/pineapple/fisherman.html

crimsonalucard 11y ago
I don't think their is any quantifiable data to prove what either of us say... but I think what I say applies to most programmers, not all.
tete 11y ago
Addendum to that. The story in the link actually seems to be "Anekdote zur Senkung der Arbeitsmoral", by Heinrich Böll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekdote_zur_Senkung_der_Arbeitsmoral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekdote_zur_Senkung_der_Arbei... An English translation as PDF: https://www.uea.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.33246!np_vol_5_article_8_by_hansjorg_bittner.pdf https://www.uea.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.33246!np_vol_5_article_8...
ciupicri 11y ago
> Matthew Dillon doesn't need to work but keeps working on DragonFlyBSD. Source?
- jalcazar 11y ago
  It is known, kind of an axiom. While I don't have access to Dillon's finances, his personal site http://www.backplane.com http://www.backplane.com gives some hints: BEST Internet was an incredible successs successs [sic] These days most of my attention is focused on the The DragonFly Project ______ He isn't the only one, many open source developers contribute because they want to do it and not expecting any monetary compensation.
monkeypizza 11y ago
I can appreciate the story - it's a paean to a lost world when we didn't need to be competitive. The thing is, money provides more power for the fisherman, which he would need if his environment changed: -rebuilding after an earthquake -fleeing if the local government goes bad -dealing with a crash in tuna price We all still live in a competitive environment. Hunter-gatherers were replaced by massively-reproducing (but probably unhappy & unhealthy) farmers. In the example, fishing represents pure surplus value, produced from nothing - and in economic situations like that, producing less than others means you'll eventually be out-competed and replaced. In reality the same tragedy of the commons applies to fishing, and we haven't solved it there either. Until competition is restrained, we've gotta compete. Individuals can opt out but they're just removing their traces from the future - those left will still be struggling until we have a way to globally eliminate environments which force people to be maximizers. And in a big universe, it's uncertain whether we can ever really control enough to be able to relax. It may even be computationally impossible to really stop the continuous evolution of competition in how we live life

crimsonalucard 11y ago

I don't think their is any quantifiable data to prove what either of us say... but I think what I say applies to most programmers, not all.

tete 11y ago

Addendum to that. The story in the link actually seems to be "Anekdote zur Senkung der Arbeitsmoral", by Heinrich Böll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekdote_zur_Senkung_der_Arbeitsmoral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekdote_zur_Senkung_der_Arbei... An English translation as PDF: https://www.uea.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.33246!np_vol_5_article_8_by_hansjorg_bittner.pdf https://www.uea.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.33246!np_vol_5_article_8...

ciupicri 11y ago

> Matthew Dillon doesn't need to work but keeps working on DragonFlyBSD. Source?

jalcazar 11y ago
It is known, kind of an axiom. While I don't have access to Dillon's finances, his personal site http://www.backplane.com http://www.backplane.com gives some hints: BEST Internet was an incredible successs successs [sic] These days most of my attention is focused on the The DragonFly Project ______ He isn't the only one, many open source developers contribute because they want to do it and not expecting any monetary compensation.

monkeypizza 11y ago

I can appreciate the story - it's a paean to a lost world when we didn't need to be competitive. The thing is, money provides more power for the fisherman, which he would need if his environment changed: -rebuilding after an earthquake -fleeing if the local government goes bad -dealing with a crash in tuna price We all still live in a competitive environment. Hunter-gatherers were replaced by massively-reproducing (but probably unhappy & unhealthy) farmers. In the example, fishing represents pure surplus value, produced from nothing - and in economic situations like that, producing less than others means you'll eventually be out-competed and replaced. In reality the same tragedy of the commons applies to fishing, and we haven't solved it there either. Until competition is restrained, we've gotta compete. Individuals can opt out but they're just removing their traces from the future - those left will still be struggling until we have a way to globally eliminate environments which force people to be maximizers. And in a big universe, it's uncertain whether we can ever really control enough to be able to relax. It may even be computationally impossible to really stop the continuous evolution of competition in how we live life