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Every time we hear about a new scandal in our German secret services, i await the news of another terrorist cell to be busted. I am rarely disappointed. Cynic
by mohawk 11y ago
Every time we hear about a new scandal in our German secret services, i await the news of another terrorist cell to be busted. I am rarely disappointed. Cynical me imagines a little cottage industry inside the secret services, always with a small queue of potential terrorists that their handlers can then push further on short notice. These terrorists can then be raided and presented to the public, reinvigorating our fear and making us think that the deep state is the lesser of two evils. And then, after a few weeks, it is back to business as usual.
- junto 11y agoThe conspiracy nut part of me could also believe that they have a parallel stream of stupid and mentality ill ones that can be used to actually implement 'terrorist' attacks, but are supposed to be both directed, then contained and killed before they can inflict too much damage (or talk afterwards in front of a jury). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting#Ch.C3.A9rif_and_Sa.C3.AFd_Kouachi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting#Ch.C3.A9...
- personlurking 11y agoYou might want to consider adding James Holmes to that list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eagan_Holmes
- mohawk 11y agoHere is some info on the Sauerland cell of 2007 (unfortunately in German): http://www.stern.de/panorama/sauerland-zelle-mutmasslicher-cia-mann-war-der-chef-653678.html http://www.stern.de/panorama/sauerland-zelle-mutmasslicher-c... Quick summary: The person the people in the Sauerland cell called "boss" and who organised the fuses for them was a "contact person" for MİT (Turkish intelligence org.) and CIA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Organization_%28Turkey%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Organiza... Background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_bomb_plot_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_bomb_plot_in_Germany
- pantalaimon 11y agoReality may be closer than you think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest_terror_attack http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest_terror_attack
- personlurking 11y agoI knew of a SWAT member of a particular California police dept who said most drug raids (think: medium to large scale) were preceded by a phone call to the person they were going to raid to warn them in advance and to leave at least some drugs and lower level people around for show.
- fapjacks 11y agoI have direct knowledge of at least one instance of this happening in California.
- madez 11y agoWhy don't you sue?
- Intermernet 11y agoWould you? That allegation, if true, would open a whole bag of hurt without definite, irrefutable proof. You'd need more than personal experience to push that through the court system. You need full, authenticated documentary evidence, from multiple channels before that charge had an ice-cube's chance in hell of being treated seriously. This is one of the main difficulties of challenging governments in court. The proof of guilt needs to be orders of magnitude above that needed to prove an individual person guilty, as they can always divert the blame to some unknown, undocumented, "unauthorized" section of the staff. Scapegoat found, case dismissed, continue as before.
- madez 11y agoDepending on the evidence I had, I probably would sue. The plural of anecdote is data. The important question is: "Data about what?". Sometimes it's data about human psychology, sometimes it points to facts. One complaint without evidence can be overlooked by every judge, but how about two independent? How about five? How about ten? Even if you have nothing but eyewitness testimony, there is much value in filing an official complaint.