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I wonder if Typescript will serve as a lesson to us all. It feels like the next generation of JavaScript, and (can) compile to ES(really old) without adding too

I wonder if Typescript will serve as a lesson to us all. It feels like the next generation of JavaScript, and (can) compile to ES(really old) without adding too much ugly Dart-like cruft. Another interesting subject only slightly touched on here has been the degree to which Perl 6 features have been slowly rolled in to Perl 5; maybe Perl 5.30 will look a great deal like Perl 6.

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cageface 12y ago
Javascript seems destined to eventually dominate the "scripting" language space. It just has unstoppable momentum now. The pace of evolution of the language and the implementations puts Perl, Python, PHP and Ruby in the shadows. And I say that as someone that really likes Ruby and is happy enough writing Python.
castell 12y ago
Typescript may serve as another showcase for Microsoft tactics to influence and steer a language (JavaScript/ES6 & 7). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish You know the Java vs. MS Java (later transformed to C#) - both MS Java/J++ and C# as well as Typescript were guided by Anders Hejlsberg (former Turbo Pascal fame).
- Shamanmuni 12y ago
  I try to be as cautious as any free software loving programmer when it comes to Microsoft, but it's hard to see how they could get away with that strategy in TypeScript's case. The code uses the Apache License 2.0 (FSF approved, OSI approved and compatible with GPL v3) and it's been on github for a year with lots of forks. You don't need to depend on anything from Microsoft for development, I've toyed with TypeScript using Node.js and Eclipse on Linux without issues. And as stated before TypeScript compiles directly to Javascript and they are trying to align their syntax with ES6. Seems quite kosher. I think at this point if Microsoft tried something shady a community fork is very doable, or if it doesn't happen you can always compile to plain JS and continue working there. It's really different from the situation you describe because developers and users won't tolerate a MS JS that only works with MS browsers, they have to remain compatible with the others or risk irrelevance.

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cageface 12y ago

Javascript seems destined to eventually dominate the "scripting" language space. It just has unstoppable momentum now. The pace of evolution of the language and the implementations puts Perl, Python, PHP and Ruby in the shadows. And I say that as someone that really likes Ruby and is happy enough writing Python.

castell 12y ago

Typescript may serve as another showcase for Microsoft tactics to influence and steer a language (JavaScript/ES6 & 7). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish You know the Java vs. MS Java (later transformed to C#) - both MS Java/J++ and C# as well as Typescript were guided by Anders Hejlsberg (former Turbo Pascal fame).

Shamanmuni 12y ago
I try to be as cautious as any free software loving programmer when it comes to Microsoft, but it's hard to see how they could get away with that strategy in TypeScript's case. The code uses the Apache License 2.0 (FSF approved, OSI approved and compatible with GPL v3) and it's been on github for a year with lots of forks. You don't need to depend on anything from Microsoft for development, I've toyed with TypeScript using Node.js and Eclipse on Linux without issues. And as stated before TypeScript compiles directly to Javascript and they are trying to align their syntax with ES6. Seems quite kosher. I think at this point if Microsoft tried something shady a community fork is very doable, or if it doesn't happen you can always compile to plain JS and continue working there. It's really different from the situation you describe because developers and users won't tolerate a MS JS that only works with MS browsers, they have to remain compatible with the others or risk irrelevance.