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Nope. We train them that way the internet is scarce, closed and walled. A DSL line and a wifi router could cover a whole village and give the real deal.

icebraining 12y ago
We train them that way the internet is scarce, closed and walled. The Internet used to be scarce, closed and walled in the US and Europe. People adjust to the new conditions as they develop. A DSL line and a wifi router could cover a whole village and give the real deal. You write "a DSL line" as if India wasn't a 3M km² country and with huge areas without even central electricity supply. What would be the cost of installing "a DSL line" for the 600k+ villages in India?
- venomsnake 12y ago
  > What would be the cost of installing "a DSL line" for the 600k+ villages in India? Worthy > without central electricity supply. If you have electricity for a base station and charging phones, you also have for pbx and copper wire.
  - icebraining 12y ago
    Worthy Care to say why? If you have electricity for a base station and charging phones, you also have for pbx and copper wire. I pointed that out not because there wouldn't be electricity to run the DSL system, but to show how difficult it has been to run electricity supply cables. DSL would have the same problems. And it would be obsolete the day it got installed. I just don't see ADSL being anything than a more expensive and less flexible alternative to mobile Internet for their current situation.
- captn3m0 12y ago
  2g Internet in India already has high penetration, with most urban areas (any place with >10000 population) having 3g access. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had reached Dangoli (which is my remote native village). Today, the very same village boasts of multiple telecom operators (cellular). We have done this in the past, and we are doing exceedingly well even today.
  - icebraining 12y ago
    I wasn't criticizing India's development, just the plan of installing a DSL line for each village. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had reached Dangoli (which is my remote native village). No doubt, yet there's a reason why your country has less than 28M landline subscribers, while it has 930M+ cellphones. Passing cable is expensive and inflexible (e.g. harder to upgrade). Mobile Internet access is a much more sensible solution for the current situation, in my opinion.
    - captn3m0 12y ago
      Yes. Cellular is a much more better solution.

icebraining 12y ago

We train them that way the internet is scarce, closed and walled. The Internet used to be scarce, closed and walled in the US and Europe. People adjust to the new conditions as they develop. A DSL line and a wifi router could cover a whole village and give the real deal. You write "a DSL line" as if India wasn't a 3M km² country and with huge areas without even central electricity supply. What would be the cost of installing "a DSL line" for the 600k+ villages in India?

venomsnake 12y ago
> What would be the cost of installing "a DSL line" for the 600k+ villages in India? Worthy > without central electricity supply. If you have electricity for a base station and charging phones, you also have for pbx and copper wire.
- icebraining 12y ago
  Worthy Care to say why? If you have electricity for a base station and charging phones, you also have for pbx and copper wire. I pointed that out not because there wouldn't be electricity to run the DSL system, but to show how difficult it has been to run electricity supply cables. DSL would have the same problems. And it would be obsolete the day it got installed. I just don't see ADSL being anything than a more expensive and less flexible alternative to mobile Internet for their current situation.
captn3m0 12y ago
2g Internet in India already has high penetration, with most urban areas (any place with >10000 population) having 3g access. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had reached Dangoli (which is my remote native village). Today, the very same village boasts of multiple telecom operators (cellular). We have done this in the past, and we are doing exceedingly well even today.
- icebraining 12y ago
  I wasn't criticizing India's development, just the plan of installing a DSL line for each village. I am not sure about DSL lines, but BSNL (Indian public telecom operator) has faced this exact issue 10 years back when telephones (landlines) were becoming commonplace in India. We got a personal phone somewhere in '98 I believe. It only took a few more years before the telephone lines had reached Dangoli (which is my remote native village). No doubt, yet there's a reason why your country has less than 28M landline subscribers, while it has 930M+ cellphones. Passing cable is expensive and inflexible (e.g. harder to upgrade). Mobile Internet access is a much more sensible solution for the current situation, in my opinion.
  - captn3m0 12y ago
    Yes. Cellular is a much more better solution.