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This is Hacker News. We come here for hacker news. If we want political news, we go to reddit.

by DXL 19y ago

nkohari 19y ago
Yes, because the internet does not exist in the real world! Why should we care what's happening around us? Eyes back to your monitors!
- run4yourlives 19y ago
  Every site has a focus.
  - nkohari 19y ago
    I'm not suggesting we become the politics subreddit. Just saying that it's important to know what's going on IRL too. :)
    - run4yourlives 19y ago
      You can visit other sites you know. I'm pretty sure Paul won't mind. :-)
- davidw 19y ago
  I don't agree with nkohari, but he shouldn't be voted down this much. A 0 or a -1 is enough to say "no, we don't agree". It's not as if he said something horribly offensive.
  - nkohari 19y ago
    Thanks for the support. I guess I didn't realize that this was an opinion-free zone. Honestly I think it's ridiculous that I would get down-voted for supporting an article that's now at number one. Clearly people care about the topic, and it's not like I contributed "less" to the discussion than the original comment I replied to, which was up-voted like wildfire. It's not like I'm on here spouting support for Ron Paul or linking to leftist blogs.
    - Xichekolas 19y ago
      I too disagreed with you, but voted you up (from -8 to -7) because I think it's ridiculous that you can bury someone that much. If you think about it, the only people that deserve to be buried are true trolls posting viagra ads and those terrible scat porn stories on slashdot... and those people don't care about their karma anyway, so you might as well just delete their accounts. Why don't we just have some kind of floor on comments. Really -1 is enough to say "this comment is crap" without resulting in a situation where someone is dogpiled.
  - andreyf 19y ago
    I agree with davidw, but he shouldn't be voted up this much. A 3 or a 4 is enough to say "we agree". It's not as if he said something horribly insightful.
    - davidw 19y ago
      See how short the path is from politics to meta-meta discussions? A slippery slope indeed;-) I wouldn't vote me up that much either, but there is a difference between voting up and voting someone way down.
- initself 19y ago
  How did this get negative points? I can only upvote!
  - Xichekolas 19y ago
    You need a certain level of karma to downvote.
chengmi 19y ago
I've been hacking since last night, and I found this interesting. My point is, news doesn't have to be about technology, business, or startups to be interesting to hackers.
- inovica 19y ago
  Of course it doesn't, however once this site starts getting diluted with information that I consider to be off-topic then I leave and so will others. The GREAT thing about Hacker News is that it covers startup and programming news and is a wonderful resource without me having to go through loads of stuff I'm not interested in, or (more importantly) that I can find elsewhere
  - chengmi 19y ago
    Point taken.
    - inovica 19y ago
      Anyway, its sparked debate :) We've a great community on here, so whats good is we can do so intelligently. I'm not from the US, so not only was this off-topic (for me) but also not even politics I'm interested in :P
  - andreyf 19y ago
    having to go through loads of stuff I'm not interested in Anyone interested in making an open version of reddit? One where people can write their own "favorites" algorithm, and/or one where user's votes are available via API?
inovica 19y ago
Personally, I agree. If I want news like this then I go to other websites. I come to Hacker news because its focused
henning 19y ago
Really? You're interested in Ron Paul and George W. Bush alarmism?
vlad 19y ago
He should be able to submit whatever he wants. People who vote this stuff up should lose karma. Call it a "user obviously doesn't grasp the point of the site" penalty.
andreyf 19y ago
We come here for hacker news. If we want political news, we go to reddit. I come here for intelligent analysis of news which I take notice of. Although I'm very curious about software, I still take notice of political current events in the US... as, I think, do most intelligent people. Although it's questionable that some universities have departments dedicated to it (http://rhetoric.berkeley.edu/ http://rhetoric.berkeley.edu/), I think political rhetoric like this speech is very interesting for hackers, especially so from mass psychology and CogSci perspectives.
- robg 19y ago
  I don't understand why this comment got down-voted as it has. Steve Jobs is a closer example of the charisma and rhetoric needed to lead, but the example linked to here is another fine data point. If you aspire to leading a company, don't you want to inspire as well as perspire?
  - pg 19y ago
    I think there's some reflexive downvoting going on here, because people are terrified of what happened to reddit happening here. But we won't let that happen.

This is Hacker News. We come here for hacker news. If we want political news, we go to reddit.

by DXL 19y ago

This is Hacker News. We come here for hacker news. If we want political news, we go to reddit.

Yes, because the internet does not exist in the real world! Why should we care what's happening around us? Eyes back to your monitors!

run4yourlives 19y ago
Every site has a focus.
- nkohari 19y ago
  I'm not suggesting we become the politics subreddit. Just saying that it's important to know what's going on IRL too. :)
  - run4yourlives 19y ago
    You can visit other sites you know. I'm pretty sure Paul won't mind. :-)
davidw 19y ago
I don't agree with nkohari, but he shouldn't be voted down this much. A 0 or a -1 is enough to say "no, we don't agree". It's not as if he said something horribly offensive.
- nkohari 19y ago
  Thanks for the support. I guess I didn't realize that this was an opinion-free zone. Honestly I think it's ridiculous that I would get down-voted for supporting an article that's now at number one. Clearly people care about the topic, and it's not like I contributed "less" to the discussion than the original comment I replied to, which was up-voted like wildfire. It's not like I'm on here spouting support for Ron Paul or linking to leftist blogs.
  - Xichekolas 19y ago
    I too disagreed with you, but voted you up (from -8 to -7) because I think it's ridiculous that you can bury someone that much. If you think about it, the only people that deserve to be buried are true trolls posting viagra ads and those terrible scat porn stories on slashdot... and those people don't care about their karma anyway, so you might as well just delete their accounts. Why don't we just have some kind of floor on comments. Really -1 is enough to say "this comment is crap" without resulting in a situation where someone is dogpiled.
- andreyf 19y ago
  I agree with davidw, but he shouldn't be voted up this much. A 3 or a 4 is enough to say "we agree". It's not as if he said something horribly insightful.
  - davidw 19y ago
    See how short the path is from politics to meta-meta discussions? A slippery slope indeed;-) I wouldn't vote me up that much either, but there is a difference between voting up and voting someone way down.
initself 19y ago
How did this get negative points? I can only upvote!
- Xichekolas 19y ago
  You need a certain level of karma to downvote.

chengmi 19y ago

I've been hacking since last night, and I found this interesting. My point is, news doesn't have to be about technology, business, or startups to be interesting to hackers.

inovica 19y ago
Of course it doesn't, however once this site starts getting diluted with information that I consider to be off-topic then I leave and so will others. The GREAT thing about Hacker News is that it covers startup and programming news and is a wonderful resource without me having to go through loads of stuff I'm not interested in, or (more importantly) that I can find elsewhere
- chengmi 19y ago
  Point taken.
  - inovica 19y ago
    Anyway, its sparked debate :) We've a great community on here, so whats good is we can do so intelligently. I'm not from the US, so not only was this off-topic (for me) but also not even politics I'm interested in :P
- andreyf 19y ago
  having to go through loads of stuff I'm not interested in Anyone interested in making an open version of reddit? One where people can write their own "favorites" algorithm, and/or one where user's votes are available via API?

inovica 19y ago

Personally, I agree. If I want news like this then I go to other websites. I come to Hacker news because its focused

henning 19y ago

Really? You're interested in Ron Paul and George W. Bush alarmism?

vlad 19y ago

He should be able to submit whatever he wants. People who vote this stuff up should lose karma. Call it a "user obviously doesn't grasp the point of the site" penalty.

andreyf 19y ago

We come here for hacker news. If we want political news, we go to reddit. I come here for intelligent analysis of news which I take notice of. Although I'm very curious about software, I still take notice of political current events in the US... as, I think, do most intelligent people. Although it's questionable that some universities have departments dedicated to it (http://rhetoric.berkeley.edu/ http://rhetoric.berkeley.edu/), I think political rhetoric like this speech is very interesting for hackers, especially so from mass psychology and CogSci perspectives.

robg 19y ago
I don't understand why this comment got down-voted as it has. Steve Jobs is a closer example of the charisma and rhetoric needed to lead, but the example linked to here is another fine data point. If you aspire to leading a company, don't you want to inspire as well as perspire?
- pg 19y ago
  I think there's some reflexive downvoting going on here, because people are terrified of what happened to reddit happening here. But we won't let that happen.