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Microsoft is becoming the new Golang of HN. As soon as a story appears mentioning it, it's on the frontpage.

by valevk 11y ago

bliker 11y ago
It’s almost like during Apple events
tszming 11y ago
IMO, Microsoft is becoming the new Google; Google is becoming the old Microsoft, how funny is it..
- Rainymood 11y ago
  Why exactly? Mind elaborating some on that statement? Because I disagree.
  - nabaraz 11y ago
    1.flooding market 2. stagnant platform 3. not proper direction 4. rushed release 5. longer and less transparent updates etc.
    - icebraining 11y ago
      That still sounds like Microsoft to me.
      - vladiliescu 11y ago
        Really? With all the new things coming out of Redmond and with them open sourcing the full server side .NET stack[1], the description above still sounds like MS to you? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8595905 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8595905
        icebraining 11y ago
        "All the new things" You mean, flooding the market without a proper direction? :) As for open sourcing, I don't see how that invalidates any of the points. None of them had "keeping platforms proprietary".
        WorldWideWayne 11y ago
        Exactly what could Microsoft do that would indicate to you that they have proper direction? Alternatively, please point to a company that you think has proper direction and tell us why.
        vladiliescu 11y ago
        imo, it invalidates the following: 2 - the platform is not stagnant, be it Windows or .NET - new things are coming out; 3 - there is a proper direction, less towards Windows/Office as desktop apps and more towards services; 5 - the updates do happen more often, and at least for .NET they're done in a transparent way (being open source and all)
  - junto 11y ago
    I guess the OP is talking more about debatable abuses of monopoly.
- Grazester 11y ago
  If I had a dime for every time I read this...you get the point. Because Microsoft is finally getting their act together doesn't mean they become Google. They simply start to look like a better company. I really dont see how the two companies interchanged roles.
  - WorldWideWayne 11y ago
    Google used to seem cool because they gave the people what they wanted and didn't exhibit many signs of being a parasite... but as they grew, they did. Now Microsoft is giving people what they want because they are the underdog. So in that respect, in a lot of people's minds I think, their roles have interchanged.
tomjen3 11y ago
That is because MS is currently putting out a lot of things that we simply didn't believe was possible 5 years ago. Suddenly MS is not only relevant again but interesting - heck the technology I am most psyced about (their augmented reality system) is a Microsoft product.
Mahn 11y ago
These stories aren't in the front page because it's Microsoft, but because they are interesting. Microsoft is just doing consistently interesting things lately.
XzetaU8 11y ago
Shills & astroturfing is a very common -and old i might say- Microsoft tactic. Hint: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2365060/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-bloggers-again-to-promote-internet-explorer.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2365060/microsoft-caught-astr... #Reputation_management
- zxcvcxz 11y ago
  We live in the age of shills and sheeple now. A few smart people controlling the narrative over large groups. Don't think the people trying to manipulate you aren't evolving and honing their strategies. Psy-ops and thought manipulation are widely documented practices. In the age we live in we must be vigilant and accept that we are probably being subtly manipulated by corporate interests, unfortunately. Is the poster claiming golang to be a fetish language of HN to distract from the fact that swift is the real fetish language? Am I a shill? No way. No way to know. The good news is that the corporations who do it have to keep a lot of it secret so it's hard for all of them to align their interests and they end up competing with each other.

Microsoft is becoming the new Golang of HN. As soon as a story appears mentioning it, it's on the frontpage.

by valevk 11y ago

Microsoft is becoming the new Golang of HN. As soon as a story appears mentioning it, it's on the frontpage.

bliker 11y ago

It’s almost like during Apple events

tszming 11y ago

IMO, Microsoft is becoming the new Google; Google is becoming the old Microsoft, how funny is it..

Rainymood 11y ago
Why exactly? Mind elaborating some on that statement? Because I disagree.
- nabaraz 11y ago
  1.flooding market 2. stagnant platform 3. not proper direction 4. rushed release 5. longer and less transparent updates etc.
  - icebraining 11y ago
    That still sounds like Microsoft to me.
    - vladiliescu 11y ago
      Really? With all the new things coming out of Redmond and with them open sourcing the full server side .NET stack[1], the description above still sounds like MS to you? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8595905 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8595905
      - icebraining 11y ago
        "All the new things" You mean, flooding the market without a proper direction? :) As for open sourcing, I don't see how that invalidates any of the points. None of them had "keeping platforms proprietary".
        WorldWideWayne 11y ago
        Exactly what could Microsoft do that would indicate to you that they have proper direction? Alternatively, please point to a company that you think has proper direction and tell us why.
        vladiliescu 11y ago
        imo, it invalidates the following: 2 - the platform is not stagnant, be it Windows or .NET - new things are coming out; 3 - there is a proper direction, less towards Windows/Office as desktop apps and more towards services; 5 - the updates do happen more often, and at least for .NET they're done in a transparent way (being open source and all)
- junto 11y ago
  I guess the OP is talking more about debatable abuses of monopoly.
Grazester 11y ago
If I had a dime for every time I read this...you get the point. Because Microsoft is finally getting their act together doesn't mean they become Google. They simply start to look like a better company. I really dont see how the two companies interchanged roles.
- WorldWideWayne 11y ago
  Google used to seem cool because they gave the people what they wanted and didn't exhibit many signs of being a parasite... but as they grew, they did. Now Microsoft is giving people what they want because they are the underdog. So in that respect, in a lot of people's minds I think, their roles have interchanged.

tomjen3 11y ago

That is because MS is currently putting out a lot of things that we simply didn't believe was possible 5 years ago. Suddenly MS is not only relevant again but interesting - heck the technology I am most psyced about (their augmented reality system) is a Microsoft product.

Mahn 11y ago

These stories aren't in the front page because it's Microsoft, but because they are interesting. Microsoft is just doing consistently interesting things lately.

XzetaU8 11y ago

Shills & astroturfing is a very common -and old i might say- Microsoft tactic. Hint: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2365060/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-bloggers-again-to-promote-internet-explorer.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2365060/microsoft-caught-astr... #Reputation_management

zxcvcxz 11y ago
We live in the age of shills and sheeple now. A few smart people controlling the narrative over large groups. Don't think the people trying to manipulate you aren't evolving and honing their strategies. Psy-ops and thought manipulation are widely documented practices. In the age we live in we must be vigilant and accept that we are probably being subtly manipulated by corporate interests, unfortunately. Is the poster claiming golang to be a fetish language of HN to distract from the fact that swift is the real fetish language? Am I a shill? No way. No way to know. The good news is that the corporations who do it have to keep a lot of it secret so it's hard for all of them to align their interests and they end up competing with each other.