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Everything he said is true, now what are we going to do about it?
by ZanyProgrammer 11y ago
Everything he said is true, now what are we going to do about it?
- digdigdag 11y agoPer usual, not much will get done. It's your word against police unions.
- itistoday2 11y ago> Everything he said is true, now what are we going to do about it? For those of us who are illiterate when it comes to legal matters, the best we can do about it is to first fix our ignorance. When computers break, folks look for their local computer geek to fix it. When laws break, computer geeks should seek the counsel of their local law geek (or become one themselves). Now, if the law geeks say their system is so broken that there's nothing they can do to reasonably fix it, that's when the wider community can take alternative steps.
- virtuabhi 11y agoNothing. In US, people have "too much" respect for military and police. This respect has turned into an almost fanatical devotion. Say anything against these professionals and you will be branded as anti-national. Even the President cannot criticize the police. Unless US citizens realize that policemen are just professionals performing their jobs and not selfless angels, the police in US will always stay above the law.
- themartorana 11y agoI'm pretty sure the president did criticize the police. So had the mayor of NY, among others. The fact is, police have gotten so comfortable in their untouchable-ness that they've stepped over the line that defines the amount of corruption and abuse "we" are willing to look past. Apparently it is somewhere around cops straight up robbing (civil forfeiture) and killing us.
- mikeash 11y agoYour statement doesn't sound familiar to me. It does seem to be true for the military, which enjoys pretty much universal devotion from all. I think it's because we've finally figured out how to disentangle being pro-war from being pro-soldier, so that both warmongers and peaceniks can embrace members of the military. But I don't see anything remotely like it for the police. Respect is common, but far from universal. Where it exists, it tends to be mild.
- lawnchair_larry 11y agoWhy would those who oppose war embrace the agents of war? You cannot separate soldiers from the wars that they volunteer to participate in.
- mikeash 11y agoFor one thing, because many did not volunteer to participate in war. I'm sure you've heard stories about people coming home from Vietnam and being spit on. A lot of those people were drafted. In more recent history, most of the people sent to invade Afghanistan and Iraq joined a peacetime Army with no foreseeable major conflicts. Feel free to criticize the soldiers themselves, of course. I just don't see the point, and I don't think you'll get very far. Even if you vilify utterly in the public mind, you'll accomplish nothing. The people who decide where to send those soldiers are the ones who count.