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Saw a link to the article on Dan Benjamin's Hivelogic and was wondering what you guys think. The allegedly biased Wikipedia-cited scientific research: http://

Saw a link to the article on Dan Benjamin's Hivelogic and was wondering what you guys think. The allegedly biased Wikipedia-cited scientific research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation#Scientific_research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation#Scien... The article from Skeptic's Dictionary: http://skepdic.com/tm.html http://skepdic.com/tm.html MetaFilter thread on whether or not it's worth the $2500: http://ask.metafilter.com/22579/Is-it-worth-2500-to-learn-Transcendental-Meditation http://ask.metafilter.com/22579/Is-it-worth-2500-to-learn-Tr...

anigbrowl 17y ago
Bear in mind we're talking about the Telegraph here...they're just as likely to publish an op-ed tomorrow dismissing yoga as an effete liberal pursuit and bemoaning the difficulty of obtaining a traditional English steak and kidney pie or Yorkshire pudding, an edible form of kryptonite.
GiraffeNecktie 17y ago
The WP article is a completely whitewashed history of the organization, clearly edited by TM people. The organization has a loooooooong history of making dubious claims based mostly on research performed by its own people. http://www.aaskolnick.com/naswmav.htm http://www.aaskolnick.com/naswmav.htm Even when their research has been refuted by numerous other studies, they'll continue to quote it, as if it were still valid. What's worse is that they've gone to great pains to hide the serious side effects of TM. http://www.suggestibility.org/ http://www.suggestibility.org/
- apallo 17y ago
  Wow thank you for that suggestibility.org link. After reading the telegraph article I googled it, read a bit of the wikipedia page, and then read a few reviews on amazon about TM that said "great book, but the personal lessons are where it's really at." Pretty soon I was on the actual TM website. To my knowledge I have never fallen so blatantly for something; I mean I almost checked out what their prices are. That is just plain embarrassing. I can't remember the last time I fell for something like that. What can I say; as much as I hate some of the stupid stuff that's posted on ycombinator I think most people here are bit more scientific and logical than I fully appreciate.

anigbrowl 17y ago

Bear in mind we're talking about the Telegraph here...they're just as likely to publish an op-ed tomorrow dismissing yoga as an effete liberal pursuit and bemoaning the difficulty of obtaining a traditional English steak and kidney pie or Yorkshire pudding, an edible form of kryptonite.

GiraffeNecktie 17y ago

The WP article is a completely whitewashed history of the organization, clearly edited by TM people. The organization has a loooooooong history of making dubious claims based mostly on research performed by its own people. http://www.aaskolnick.com/naswmav.htm http://www.aaskolnick.com/naswmav.htm Even when their research has been refuted by numerous other studies, they'll continue to quote it, as if it were still valid. What's worse is that they've gone to great pains to hide the serious side effects of TM. http://www.suggestibility.org/ http://www.suggestibility.org/

apallo 17y ago
Wow thank you for that suggestibility.org link. After reading the telegraph article I googled it, read a bit of the wikipedia page, and then read a few reviews on amazon about TM that said "great book, but the personal lessons are where it's really at." Pretty soon I was on the actual TM website. To my knowledge I have never fallen so blatantly for something; I mean I almost checked out what their prices are. That is just plain embarrassing. I can't remember the last time I fell for something like that. What can I say; as much as I hate some of the stupid stuff that's posted on ycombinator I think most people here are bit more scientific and logical than I fully appreciate.