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Who is behind this? Is it the EFF? Because it should be the EFF. I gave money to them years ago to do exactly this kind of lobbying, but they haven't been doi

by MCRed 11y ago

Who is behind this? Is it the EFF? Because it should be the EFF. I gave money to them years ago to do exactly this kind of lobbying, but they haven't been doing much that I can see-- except posting a lot of blog articles. The EFF seems to have gone the way of greenpeace. (I once gave greenpeace a bit of money and then they spent 10 times that hounding me over the next 5 years for more.)

sukilot 11y ago
You realize that you are complaining that EFF takes your money and does real work in the legal system , instead of blowing it on ad campaigns fornthemsef.
icebraining 11y ago
They've sued the NSA, and the case has been running until this year (not sure if it's finally dead, though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA EDIT: They also sued the DEA regarding mass surveillance just last month: https://www.eff.org/press/releases/human-rights-watch-sues-dea-over-bulk-collection-americans-telephone-records https://www.eff.org/press/releases/human-rights-watch-sues-d... They also develop the HTTPS-Everywhere addon and file Amicus briefs on other court cases (e.g. Raynor v. State of Maryland). See https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy
- chimeracoder 11y ago
  > They've sued the NSA, and the case has been running until this year (not sure if it's finally dead, though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA It's worth mentioning that the EFF sued the NSA long before the Snowden leaks were revealed. They've been fighting this fight far longer than most people realized just how important it was. They've also been involved in suits against the NSA after the Snowden leaks as well, but it's not even like they just jumped on the bandwagon. They've been committed to this fight for ages.
leeflannery 11y ago
The EFF recently successfully petitioned the USPTO to invalidate Personal Audio's patent claim on podcast technology: https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-busts-podcasting-patent-invalidating-key-claims-patent-office https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-busts-podcasting-pate...
kajecounterhack 11y ago
The EFF has been involved in a number of lawsuits to lobby for and protect our rights. They've been offering legal support to a number of defenses including targets in Bitcoin, DRM, and CFAA prosecutions. I haven't seen gratuitous spending on the part of EFF for marketing / promotional purposes -- they seem like one of the organizations who utilize their resources well.
copsarebastards 11y ago
You'd rather see the EFF support slacktivist programs than pursue court cases that create legal precendent (which is what they are doing)? Yeah, no thanks.

by MCRed 11y ago

sukilot 11y ago

You realize that you are complaining that EFF takes your money and does real work in the legal system , instead of blowing it on ad campaigns fornthemsef.

icebraining 11y ago

They've sued the NSA, and the case has been running until this year (not sure if it's finally dead, though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA EDIT: They also sued the DEA regarding mass surveillance just last month: https://www.eff.org/press/releases/human-rights-watch-sues-dea-over-bulk-collection-americans-telephone-records https://www.eff.org/press/releases/human-rights-watch-sues-d... They also develop the HTTPS-Everywhere addon and file Amicus briefs on other court cases (e.g. Raynor v. State of Maryland). See https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy

chimeracoder 11y ago
> They've sued the NSA, and the case has been running until this year (not sure if it's finally dead, though): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA It's worth mentioning that the EFF sued the NSA long before the Snowden leaks were revealed. They've been fighting this fight far longer than most people realized just how important it was. They've also been involved in suits against the NSA after the Snowden leaks as well, but it's not even like they just jumped on the bandwagon. They've been committed to this fight for ages.

leeflannery 11y ago

The EFF recently successfully petitioned the USPTO to invalidate Personal Audio's patent claim on podcast technology: https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-busts-podcasting-patent-invalidating-key-claims-patent-office https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-busts-podcasting-pate...

kajecounterhack 11y ago

The EFF has been involved in a number of lawsuits to lobby for and protect our rights. They've been offering legal support to a number of defenses including targets in Bitcoin, DRM, and CFAA prosecutions. I haven't seen gratuitous spending on the part of EFF for marketing / promotional purposes -- they seem like one of the organizations who utilize their resources well.

copsarebastards 11y ago

You'd rather see the EFF support slacktivist programs than pursue court cases that create legal precendent (which is what they are doing)? Yeah, no thanks.