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Interesting to encounter you here. May I humbly ask you one question? How do you define the term, "consciousness"? i.e. what object, range of objects, functio

Interesting to encounter you here. May I humbly ask you one question? How do you define the term, "consciousness"? i.e. what object, range of objects, function, process, etc., do you indicate when you use that term?

nsomaru 12y ago
'not-object, not-function, not-process' (neti, neti). the Knower of these.
mark_l_watson 11y ago
I saw your comment a few hours ago, and I am having some difficulty answering you, that is, defining consciousness. In my experiences from more or less a lifetime of meditation practice (and what is meditation but an attempt to understand our own mind/consciousness/ego) my gut hunch/belief is that consciousness is something that is spread out and not localized in our physical bodies.
- blueprint 11y ago
  Thank you for your consideration and time to reply. May I be frank with you? After I read what you said, I became concerned for you. Although, you probably don't feel like you're in any level of danger at this late stage. However, my sole expression of concern for you might even raise the impetus within you to reject what I'm saying now. I just want to prepare you to notice such thing, if it is happening to you. There's a reason that it would happen, which I'll explain. However, I have some things to say which might sound odd at first or second listen. But I can promise you that they are true, and that the more you try to listen and understand, the more sense it will make. Everything in the world is controlled by what is inside of itself. It's impossible for anything in the world to exist, to come into existence, or to change after having come into existence without this law. What and how things act are determined by the problem made when what a thing keeps in itself contacts what exists in the world, whatever the case may be. That's why to suggest that one's consciousness exists by default outside one's body is like suggesting that the driver of a car stays outside of the car. (Even if a hypothetical external driver gives orders to the car, those orders must be transmitted into some form of controller which exists within the system of the car, by way of direct connection.) If the real owner of the car is outside of the car, then it's quite convenient for any third parties to get into the driver's seat and to drive on their own. How much more convenient for those third parties if the real owner believes that he is currently still the real driver? S/he wouldn't feel a need to lock his/her car door, nor prevent any entrants. Additionally, it's actually quite detrimental to the health of the consciousness of a living person if it stays outside of their body, because it gets weaker very quickly that way. While I don't know you well, I can tell you not only from my continuous verifications, as well as additional research, but from my sufficient understanding of theory (i.e. law of operation) that any practices of meditation taught today make practitioners go in the exact opposite direction from awakening their consciousness and saving themselves, that is, enlightening themselves. In fact, meditation of today is the best way to (i) abandon and lose yourself, and (ii) to invite others' consciousnesses to drive you. After having lost yourself, you won't notice that it is the case because your consciousness exists in a state of dormancy, and what's more, the other consciousnesses who have been able to enter and drive your body intentionally keep your own, original consciousness in that state of dormancy. The others inform you of things instead of allowing you to use your own consciousness to receive (see) things of the world. There are many secrets in the world, and some of them are very profound. But because of the above, meditation is not the way for you to open your eyes to those secrets and to understand them. Meanwhile, it's very convenient for roaming consciousnesses who do not have a body (because they have died already) to use the opportunity provided by your practice of meditation in order to show you things, and to subsequently trick you into believing that what they show you are indeed those secrets that you want to know. Those who are in this state are kept from realizing it. The dead consciousnesses who have to enter humans' bodies have to do so because of their attachment to life, and the problems they couldn't solve while they were alive. After we die, we no longer have a physical body, so it's quite a bit more difficult to change things in ourselves. That's why they look for living people who they can deceive, enter, control, and use in order to express themselves. Indeed, due to your practice of meditation, you probably feel more peaceful. However, if you don't find any way break from their control, you will also encounter extremely difficult phenomena after you pass away, and will have a very hard time finding the way to come back to life as a human being again. Additionally, during your present life, as mentioned, you won't be able to enlighten yourself through your meditation. I'm telling you this in public at the risk of being ridiculed because it is all true (everything in reality is the proof of what I'm saying), and because it's quite possible that no one else has informed you of these truths. In order to confirm or disprove what I've said you've only got to look into facts and check. However, without checking, it will be extremely difficult for you to receive what I say. So, I hope you have an interest in saving yourself!
  - eli_gottlieb 11y ago
    Wait. Did you just claim that people who meditate get possessed by ghosts!?
    - blueprint 11y ago
      That's correct.

nsomaru 12y ago

'not-object, not-function, not-process' (neti, neti). the Knower of these.

mark_l_watson 11y ago

I saw your comment a few hours ago, and I am having some difficulty answering you, that is, defining consciousness. In my experiences from more or less a lifetime of meditation practice (and what is meditation but an attempt to understand our own mind/consciousness/ego) my gut hunch/belief is that consciousness is something that is spread out and not localized in our physical bodies.

blueprint 11y ago
Thank you for your consideration and time to reply. May I be frank with you? After I read what you said, I became concerned for you. Although, you probably don't feel like you're in any level of danger at this late stage. However, my sole expression of concern for you might even raise the impetus within you to reject what I'm saying now. I just want to prepare you to notice such thing, if it is happening to you. There's a reason that it would happen, which I'll explain. However, I have some things to say which might sound odd at first or second listen. But I can promise you that they are true, and that the more you try to listen and understand, the more sense it will make. Everything in the world is controlled by what is inside of itself. It's impossible for anything in the world to exist, to come into existence, or to change after having come into existence without this law. What and how things act are determined by the problem made when what a thing keeps in itself contacts what exists in the world, whatever the case may be. That's why to suggest that one's consciousness exists by default outside one's body is like suggesting that the driver of a car stays outside of the car. (Even if a hypothetical external driver gives orders to the car, those orders must be transmitted into some form of controller which exists within the system of the car, by way of direct connection.) If the real owner of the car is outside of the car, then it's quite convenient for any third parties to get into the driver's seat and to drive on their own. How much more convenient for those third parties if the real owner believes that he is currently still the real driver? S/he wouldn't feel a need to lock his/her car door, nor prevent any entrants. Additionally, it's actually quite detrimental to the health of the consciousness of a living person if it stays outside of their body, because it gets weaker very quickly that way. While I don't know you well, I can tell you not only from my continuous verifications, as well as additional research, but from my sufficient understanding of theory (i.e. law of operation) that any practices of meditation taught today make practitioners go in the exact opposite direction from awakening their consciousness and saving themselves, that is, enlightening themselves. In fact, meditation of today is the best way to (i) abandon and lose yourself, and (ii) to invite others' consciousnesses to drive you. After having lost yourself, you won't notice that it is the case because your consciousness exists in a state of dormancy, and what's more, the other consciousnesses who have been able to enter and drive your body intentionally keep your own, original consciousness in that state of dormancy. The others inform you of things instead of allowing you to use your own consciousness to receive (see) things of the world. There are many secrets in the world, and some of them are very profound. But because of the above, meditation is not the way for you to open your eyes to those secrets and to understand them. Meanwhile, it's very convenient for roaming consciousnesses who do not have a body (because they have died already) to use the opportunity provided by your practice of meditation in order to show you things, and to subsequently trick you into believing that what they show you are indeed those secrets that you want to know. Those who are in this state are kept from realizing it. The dead consciousnesses who have to enter humans' bodies have to do so because of their attachment to life, and the problems they couldn't solve while they were alive. After we die, we no longer have a physical body, so it's quite a bit more difficult to change things in ourselves. That's why they look for living people who they can deceive, enter, control, and use in order to express themselves. Indeed, due to your practice of meditation, you probably feel more peaceful. However, if you don't find any way break from their control, you will also encounter extremely difficult phenomena after you pass away, and will have a very hard time finding the way to come back to life as a human being again. Additionally, during your present life, as mentioned, you won't be able to enlighten yourself through your meditation. I'm telling you this in public at the risk of being ridiculed because it is all true (everything in reality is the proof of what I'm saying), and because it's quite possible that no one else has informed you of these truths. In order to confirm or disprove what I've said you've only got to look into facts and check. However, without checking, it will be extremely difficult for you to receive what I say. So, I hope you have an interest in saving yourself!
- eli_gottlieb 11y ago
  Wait. Did you just claim that people who meditate get possessed by ghosts!?
  - blueprint 11y ago
    That's correct.