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If you use the term "SJW" you really might want to look in a mirror before accusing others of being "vile hate filled people."
by nemo 11y ago
If you use the term "SJW" you really might want to look in a mirror before accusing others of being "vile hate filled people."
- talmand 11y agoBut what if there are vile hate-filled people on the internet who do self-identify as SJW?
- nemo 11y agoI have only ever seen SJW used as a pejorative, YMMV.
- talmand 11y agoWell, you seem to be admitting that the term might be used differently than you have personally seen. I would say you were being a bit too preachy then. Not that I disagree with you really, it's just I don't like to see people getting really close to using the tactics they seem to be speaking out against.
- nemo 11y agoWhen someone is condemning others for being filled with hate while labeling their object of condemnation as "vile" and labeling them with a term virtually always used as a pejorative, they are looking very guilty of the crime they accuse others of. Even if the term SJW might in some rare cases not be a pejorative, when mixed with "vile" and "hate-filled" it's hard to see it as anything else. I don't know or care what "tactics" means, I was just pointing out hypocrisy and suggesting self-reflection. I don't mind if others think I'm preachy for doing so.
- talmand 11y agoThen I would say, in that case, you are using the very tactic you claim to dislike.
- nemo 11y agoI don't have any idea what "tactic" means in this context, and didn't claim to dislike a term where I've already explained that I don't even know what the term means. In fact, I didn't make any claim to dislike anything in this thread. I did point out that using pejoratives along with terms like "vile" and "hate-filled" is hypocritical.
- talmand 11y agoAh, I see now, you are indeed correct. My saying you dislike the term is just my interpretation of your posts, my bad.
- alexqgb 11y agoNobody self-identifies as an SJW, unless they're being extremely ironic. The term was coined by overt misogynists as an expression of abuse, derision, and hate and nothing's removed its nasty connotations since then.
- talmand 11y agoI think the term SJW has been around a bit longer than you think it has, been used more often in more situations than you seem to think, and I don't think it was necessarily started by misogynists as an insult to feminists.
- alexqgb 11y agoThen maybe not coined, but certainly adopted and popularized. Point being that whatever more benign associations may have been associated with it at one point have been permanently altered by GamerGate.
- talmand 11y agoWell, I appreciate your opinion on the matter but I simply disagree. As a fan of such disagreements, I find them quite educational about ideologies, I have seen the term used many times in several ways for years now. For example, urban dictionary has entries from four years ago with the very definition described. You may disagree with the usage of the term but don't change its history. It was not popularized by GamerGate and many would say it was adopted by the hashtag because it describes many people within that debate.