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Thank you for double posting the infomercial for an app (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9460628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9460628) within a mer

by hurin 11y ago

Thank you for double posting the infomercial for an app (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9460628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9460628) within a mere 6 hours of it's last appearance. (HN really should have a built in filter for this). Also a big thanks to the new york times for their uninterrupted commitment towards high-quality journalism.

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DanBC 11y ago
Those links were posted by different people. You might want to check ColinWrights submission history - they submit many interesting articles. They're not shilling or astroturfing for this company and your assumption is a bit rude because it's so easy to check. About the dupe: This submission has a clean url, the earlier submission has a bunch of cruft which is probably why the dupe filter didn't spot it. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-income-theres-an-app-for-that.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-inc... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-income-theres-an-app-for-that.html?emc=edit_tnt_20150429&nlid=66702700&tntemail0=y&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-inc...
- hurin 11y ago
  The article author obviously is astro-turfing for the company and if people want to link infomercials passing for journalism I can have an opinion on that. (I agree that I did not phrase my first comment well and it makes it sound like I implied ColinWright's involvement specifically, I've fixed that). That doesn't change the fact that it's a duplicate from within 12* hours and should get removed.
  - VikingCoder 11y ago
    > obviously Or they think it's fascinating and want to share. I'm saying it's not "obviously" anything, to me.
    - hurin 11y ago
      Yes, because the fascinating thing about earning near minimum-wage in the US is that there is a new app to help you budget. But I guess you can believe that if it helps you sustain the tech-companies selling apps are doing great things for society myth.
      - VikingCoder 11y ago
        I highly recommend you watch the John Oliver segment on Payday Loans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw ANYTHING that helps get rid of those scum is a huge improvement.
        hurin 11y ago
        > ANYTHING that helps get rid of those scum is a huge improvement. And these guys are truly crusaders for the working-class poor that are going to fix the system? Or they are just going to cash in on updating payday-loans to the 21st century Iphone version. I mean it's a good idea and I'm sure they can be very successful if it's well executed. AND I have no doubts they will be just as scummy-bag as the market & regulations allow them to be. Which is very American and I guess it's fine. But please excuse my low tolerance for packaging the profit motive of a company as helping the working class poor.
        VikingCoder 11y ago
        Competition IS GOOD. If you think that even.me is exploiting their customer base, but is otherwise a good idea, then I sincerely recommend you try to create or help someone who will compete with them, offering similar service. Perhaps for $2.50 a week. And no, they're clearly not going to "fix the system," but it sounds to me like their idea would be good for some people. Would actually help them.
        zo1 11y ago
        >"But please excuse my low tolerance for packaging the profit motive of a company as helping the working class poor." They're not mutually exclusive, to be honest. You can make a profit AND help the target group. Additionally I hope you're honest as well, and say that's okay instead of bashing them for "making a profit" while helping the needy. On a curious side note... Where abouts exactly do you place "non-profits" in this whole thing? What about government?
ColinWright 11y ago
> Thank you for double posting the > infomercial for your app ... It's not my app, I have no connection with it, and I didn't post the other submission. I saw a fascinating discussion on Twitter that was prompted by this particular article, so I submitted the article to see what the HN community might add to it.

by hurin 11y ago

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DanBC 11y ago

Those links were posted by different people. You might want to check ColinWrights submission history - they submit many interesting articles. They're not shilling or astroturfing for this company and your assumption is a bit rude because it's so easy to check. About the dupe: This submission has a clean url, the earlier submission has a bunch of cruft which is probably why the dupe filter didn't spot it. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-income-theres-an-app-for-that.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-inc... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-income-theres-an-app-for-that.html?emc=edit_tnt_20150429&nlid=66702700&tntemail0=y&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/want-a-steady-inc...

hurin 11y ago
The article author obviously is astro-turfing for the company and if people want to link infomercials passing for journalism I can have an opinion on that. (I agree that I did not phrase my first comment well and it makes it sound like I implied ColinWright's involvement specifically, I've fixed that). That doesn't change the fact that it's a duplicate from within 12* hours and should get removed.
- VikingCoder 11y ago
  > obviously Or they think it's fascinating and want to share. I'm saying it's not "obviously" anything, to me.
  - hurin 11y ago
    Yes, because the fascinating thing about earning near minimum-wage in the US is that there is a new app to help you budget. But I guess you can believe that if it helps you sustain the tech-companies selling apps are doing great things for society myth.
    - VikingCoder 11y ago
      I highly recommend you watch the John Oliver segment on Payday Loans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw ANYTHING that helps get rid of those scum is a huge improvement.
      - hurin 11y ago
        > ANYTHING that helps get rid of those scum is a huge improvement. And these guys are truly crusaders for the working-class poor that are going to fix the system? Or they are just going to cash in on updating payday-loans to the 21st century Iphone version. I mean it's a good idea and I'm sure they can be very successful if it's well executed. AND I have no doubts they will be just as scummy-bag as the market & regulations allow them to be. Which is very American and I guess it's fine. But please excuse my low tolerance for packaging the profit motive of a company as helping the working class poor.
        VikingCoder 11y ago
        Competition IS GOOD. If you think that even.me is exploiting their customer base, but is otherwise a good idea, then I sincerely recommend you try to create or help someone who will compete with them, offering similar service. Perhaps for $2.50 a week. And no, they're clearly not going to "fix the system," but it sounds to me like their idea would be good for some people. Would actually help them.
        zo1 11y ago
        >"But please excuse my low tolerance for packaging the profit motive of a company as helping the working class poor." They're not mutually exclusive, to be honest. You can make a profit AND help the target group. Additionally I hope you're honest as well, and say that's okay instead of bashing them for "making a profit" while helping the needy. On a curious side note... Where abouts exactly do you place "non-profits" in this whole thing? What about government?

ColinWright 11y ago

> Thank you for double posting the > infomercial for your app ... It's not my app, I have no connection with it, and I didn't post the other submission. I saw a fascinating discussion on Twitter that was prompted by this particular article, so I submitted the article to see what the HN community might add to it.