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Pirates aren't going anywhere. One site shuts down, 5 more pop up. It's an impossible game of whack-a-mole. This isn't a statement in favor of or against copyri

by selven 17y ago

Pirates aren't going anywhere. One site shuts down, 5 more pop up. It's an impossible game of whack-a-mole. This isn't a statement in favor of or against copyright infringement, it's a simple fact.

GrandMasterBirt 17y ago
As one other post said, TPB is not shutting down, but marking the end of an era where trackers were needed. Trackerless torrents are going to become vastly popular very very soon. This is great. Basically the authorities are fighting a superior technology with nothing but the greatest of benefits: everyone contributes when downloading, so the load is not 100% on the server to serve the content. And the authorities are not giving good alternatives. ISPs are not working together with bt developers to make a protocol friendly for everyone, instead they are fighting to keep the protocol down. O well I like the part about the servers being given to a museum.
henrikschroder 17y ago
Funnily enough, the mechanisms behind pirate markets are very well understood, they appear when there is a large discrepancy between how consumers value a goods in a market, and the price of the goods in that market.
- chaosmachine 17y ago
  Is 99 cents a large discrepancy? iPhone apps sell for less than a dollar, and still get pirated in large numbers.
  - mmelin 17y ago
    The difference between $0.00 and $0.99 isn't simply 99 cents. It's the difference between no money (free) and some money, which is probably the single largest price discrepancy there is.
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      Exactly. People always try to make this a price elasticity issue, but it really isn't. It's about having a transaction or none at all, there is no 'slope' to the problem.
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  - Confusion 17y ago
    Is 99 cents a large discrepancy? It may be. The discrepancy between 99 cents and 1 cent is considered to be much smaller than the discrepancy between 99 cents and nothing. and still get pirated in large numbers Citation needed.
    - chaosmachine 17y ago
      "Citation needed." http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/developer-claims-80-percent-piracy-rate-for-latest-iphone-releas/ http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/developer-claims-80-percen... http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/the-little-tank-that-could-for-iphone-was-pirated-96-percent-of-the-time-20090729/ http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/the-little-tank-that-cou... http://www.industrygamers.com/news/iphone-rally-game-sees-95-percent-piracy-rate/ http://www.industrygamers.com/news/iphone-rally-game-sees-95...

by selven 17y ago

Pirates aren't going anywhere. One site shuts down, 5 more pop up. It's an impossible game of whack-a-mole. This isn't a statement in favor of or against copyright infringement, it's a simple fact.

GrandMasterBirt 17y ago

As one other post said, TPB is not shutting down, but marking the end of an era where trackers were needed. Trackerless torrents are going to become vastly popular very very soon. This is great. Basically the authorities are fighting a superior technology with nothing but the greatest of benefits: everyone contributes when downloading, so the load is not 100% on the server to serve the content. And the authorities are not giving good alternatives. ISPs are not working together with bt developers to make a protocol friendly for everyone, instead they are fighting to keep the protocol down. O well I like the part about the servers being given to a museum.

henrikschroder 17y ago

Funnily enough, the mechanisms behind pirate markets are very well understood, they appear when there is a large discrepancy between how consumers value a goods in a market, and the price of the goods in that market.

chaosmachine 17y ago
Is 99 cents a large discrepancy? iPhone apps sell for less than a dollar, and still get pirated in large numbers.
- mmelin 17y ago
  The difference between $0.00 and $0.99 isn't simply 99 cents. It's the difference between no money (free) and some money, which is probably the single largest price discrepancy there is.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Exactly. People always try to make this a price elasticity issue, but it really isn't. It's about having a transaction or none at all, there is no 'slope' to the problem.
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- Confusion 17y ago
  Is 99 cents a large discrepancy? It may be. The discrepancy between 99 cents and 1 cent is considered to be much smaller than the discrepancy between 99 cents and nothing. and still get pirated in large numbers Citation needed.
  - chaosmachine 17y ago
    "Citation needed." http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/developer-claims-80-percent-piracy-rate-for-latest-iphone-releas/ http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/developer-claims-80-percen... http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/the-little-tank-that-could-for-iphone-was-pirated-96-percent-of-the-time-20090729/ http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/the-little-tank-that-cou... http://www.industrygamers.com/news/iphone-rally-game-sees-95-percent-piracy-rate/ http://www.industrygamers.com/news/iphone-rally-game-sees-95...