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The usual Google product lifecycle: * Create new product to great fanfare * New product sees wide adoption * Many competitors to new product die off due to G

by nathanb 11y ago

The usual Google product lifecycle: * Create new product to great fanfare * New product sees wide adoption * Many competitors to new product die off due to Google's monopolistic practices * Google decide supporting the now-standard product is not lucrative enough and abandon it * Massive ecosystem gap I see Chrome on the desktop moving in this direction. It is massive and bloated and has become the thing it was designed to overthrow. One process per tab does not scale. Chromebooks are becoming less and less relevant. Surely the mobile situation is indicative of reduced corporate support for the project as a whole.

AlexandrB 11y ago
> * Create new product to great fanfare > * New product sees wide adoption > * Many competitors to new product die off due to Google's monopolistic practices > * Google decide supporting the now-standard product is not lucrative enough and abandon it > * Massive ecosystem gap In my lifetime this has gone from describing Microsoft to describing Google. Amazing!
- frikk 11y ago
  Meanwhile, Microsoft has gone on to open source core components of their offerings (with no signs of slowing down) and Apple (not surprisingly) is locking down developers even further with requiring signed drivers by default (I think -- not confirmed). Amazing how things can shift.
  - exelius 11y ago
    To be fair, it's not hard to get a signing key for Apple (anyone with $99/yr can get one). And it's not just drivers -- ALL apps must be signed by default.
  - wooger 11y ago
    Google open source stuff, true, but their development practices leave much to be desired, and in some cases seem designed to limit the usefulness of the source. Chromium source is a nightmare to build, and requires random, specific versions of the opensource components, or sometimes incorporates requires Google's own forked, slightly different and broken versions. Android source is becoming less useful as a viable OS replacement every version, as so many apps are tied solely to the Play APIs.
  - pilif 11y ago
    Microsoft has moved to requiring signed drivers ever since the x64 versions of Windows have come out. All 64bit installs only run signed drivers. Yes, it's turnoffable, but only as a temporary measure and with huge warnings - kinda similar to what Apple does now too (boot parameter, but no warnings AFAIK)

by nathanb 11y ago

AlexandrB 11y ago

> * Create new product to great fanfare > * New product sees wide adoption > * Many competitors to new product die off due to Google's monopolistic practices > * Google decide supporting the now-standard product is not lucrative enough and abandon it > * Massive ecosystem gap In my lifetime this has gone from describing Microsoft to describing Google. Amazing!

frikk 11y ago
Meanwhile, Microsoft has gone on to open source core components of their offerings (with no signs of slowing down) and Apple (not surprisingly) is locking down developers even further with requiring signed drivers by default (I think -- not confirmed). Amazing how things can shift.
- exelius 11y ago
  To be fair, it's not hard to get a signing key for Apple (anyone with $99/yr can get one). And it's not just drivers -- ALL apps must be signed by default.
- wooger 11y ago
  Google open source stuff, true, but their development practices leave much to be desired, and in some cases seem designed to limit the usefulness of the source. Chromium source is a nightmare to build, and requires random, specific versions of the opensource components, or sometimes incorporates requires Google's own forked, slightly different and broken versions. Android source is becoming less useful as a viable OS replacement every version, as so many apps are tied solely to the Play APIs.
- pilif 11y ago
  Microsoft has moved to requiring signed drivers ever since the x64 versions of Windows have come out. All 64bit installs only run signed drivers. Yes, it's turnoffable, but only as a temporary measure and with huge warnings - kinda similar to what Apple does now too (boot parameter, but no warnings AFAIK)