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It seems this is the predecessor: Visual Studio Online (2013): http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/a-quick-look-at-the-new-visual-studio-online-quot-monaco-quot-

by frik 12y ago

It seems this is the predecessor: Visual Studio Online (2013): http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/a-quick-look-at-the-new-visual-studio-online-quot-monaco-quot-code-editor http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/a-quick-look-at-the-new-v... (scroll down half way to see the screenshots and videos) So the idea and technology behind it predates Satya Nadella CEO appointment by at least 3 months.

UK-AL 12y ago
Visual Studio Online is basically TFS online. Think github + CI + Kanban board + Issue tracking online.
- frik 12y ago
  It's more than that. Scroll half way down on my link above, check out the screenshots and video. Visual Studio Code is more like an offline version of Visual Studio Online (the editor part), 2 years later.
  - UK-AL 12y ago
    The editor is a tiny tiny tiny tiny part of VS Online.
    - frik 12y ago
      And exactly that "not so tiny" editor is the big part of Visual Studio Code. And it is not trivial at all - it's a very complex component to get right. The editor component comes from Switzerland and is called "monaco" and one of the main reasons why the "TypeScript" language exists and why ES6 looks as it looks today.
zaphar 12y ago
MS has always had great ideas and technology waiting in the wings. The problem was always they could never ship it. Nadella's contribution is to make it possible to ship this sort of thing. Shipping this under Ballmer would have been a miracle.
- clebio 12y ago
  > ... always ... waiting in the wings ... ship This sounds like you're speaking from inside experience. I would _love_ to hear more of this back story. Seriously, to anyone, write it up.
  - zaphar 12y ago
    I've never worked there but I know people who did. And anyone who follows MS Research can read between the lines. No direct experience here though so I'm the wrong person to write it up.
  - toyg 12y ago
    You just have to look at the amount of money they sunk into R&D in the last 15 years, which is public data. Nobody spends that sort of cash to simply develop simple iterative versions of established products (which Windows and Office have been ever since XP, really) or one random new gizmo (Kinect).
    - sukilot 12y ago
      R&D gets favorable tax treatment. Maintaining an OS, whatever it costs, is R&D.
  - johnchristopher 12y ago
    You could google for that minimsft blog and the `we forgot how to ship´ trend of a few years back (from Sinofsky(i?) I believe).
  - Intermernet 12y ago
    Have a look at the list of projects here http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/ http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/ and see how many are probably going to be profitable in the next couple of decades. It's actually pretty amazing how much research Microsoft fund that seems unrelated to any of their current product lines. I think MS Research would be a pretty amazing place to work.

by frik 12y ago

UK-AL 12y ago

Visual Studio Online is basically TFS online. Think github + CI + Kanban board + Issue tracking online.

frik 12y ago
It's more than that. Scroll half way down on my link above, check out the screenshots and video. Visual Studio Code is more like an offline version of Visual Studio Online (the editor part), 2 years later.
- UK-AL 12y ago
  The editor is a tiny tiny tiny tiny part of VS Online.
  - frik 12y ago
    And exactly that "not so tiny" editor is the big part of Visual Studio Code. And it is not trivial at all - it's a very complex component to get right. The editor component comes from Switzerland and is called "monaco" and one of the main reasons why the "TypeScript" language exists and why ES6 looks as it looks today.

zaphar 12y ago

MS has always had great ideas and technology waiting in the wings. The problem was always they could never ship it. Nadella's contribution is to make it possible to ship this sort of thing. Shipping this under Ballmer would have been a miracle.

clebio 12y ago
> ... always ... waiting in the wings ... ship This sounds like you're speaking from inside experience. I would _love_ to hear more of this back story. Seriously, to anyone, write it up.
- zaphar 12y ago
  I've never worked there but I know people who did. And anyone who follows MS Research can read between the lines. No direct experience here though so I'm the wrong person to write it up.
- toyg 12y ago
  You just have to look at the amount of money they sunk into R&D in the last 15 years, which is public data. Nobody spends that sort of cash to simply develop simple iterative versions of established products (which Windows and Office have been ever since XP, really) or one random new gizmo (Kinect).
  - sukilot 12y ago
    R&D gets favorable tax treatment. Maintaining an OS, whatever it costs, is R&D.
- johnchristopher 12y ago
  You could google for that minimsft blog and the `we forgot how to ship´ trend of a few years back (from Sinofsky(i?) I believe).
- Intermernet 12y ago
  Have a look at the list of projects here http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/ http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/ and see how many are probably going to be profitable in the next couple of decades. It's actually pretty amazing how much research Microsoft fund that seems unrelated to any of their current product lines. I think MS Research would be a pretty amazing place to work.