I wish there was a way to fix this. Not easy. One guess is, its just not in human nature, its not possible, to be productive 8h between X and Y hours of the da

I wish there was a way to fix this. Not easy. One guess is, its just not in human nature, its not possible, to be productive 8h between X and Y hours of the day. Not for you, programmer, not for the manager either. So we start learning how to pretend and eventually all we do is pretend. Thats just one of the reasons. To fix the problem - an organization and contract which is not time or space based, you dont have to sit there in that open space, or be there between X and Y. But then we woudl've been back to quite radical economy, quite radical model of society than we have now - where you dont sell your labor, where you would sell your produce. And thats problematic because we cant really measure or quantify "what programmer/manager produces". So we end up in this circus of pretending to know what that value is of programmer when in a cubicle on a timeclock, and pretending to care, and then come the backstabbing and office politics.