Startups can (but not always are) be just as rough for expecting crazy outputs, because they belief they have nothing, can lose everything at every time, pivots

Startups can (but not always are) be just as rough for expecting crazy outputs, because they belief they have nothing, can lose everything at every time, pivots and changes happening all the time, lack of process. The "using the mail/chat client to see if people are 'working'" thing, etc. I prefer more established startups and companies for this reason, but I think they can have most of the same traits, at times, as consultancies as mentioned in this article.