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> And yet at the same time even many of us without nationalist inclinations in the UK are extremely proud of outspoken arch-colonialist Churchill for his role i
by mercurial 12y ago
> And yet at the same time even many of us without nationalist inclinations in the UK are extremely proud of outspoken arch-colonialist Churchill for his role in defeating Hitler, to the point where his less fashionable opinions and military blunders are largely glossed over.
That's a bit different, isn't it? I don't know how it is in the UK, but outside of it, it's not his pro-colonial views which are admired, but his charisma and obstination.
The regime that exposed his excesses and carried out a program of "de-Stalinisation" is long gone and perhaps not entirely trusted because of its own flaws, his victims are long dead, and the last thing the Putin administration want to discourage is nostalgic admiration for leaders' strength in standing up to Europe.
That's a fair point. I would be curious to read the parts of the current Russian curriculum dealing with him.
> I'm a bit more perplexed when I see his face alongside Marx and Lenin on some of the more hard-left trade unionists' May Day placards over here...
Yeah, it's not like the USSR was exactly a big promoter of trade unions on its own soil...
- notahacker 12y ago> That's a bit different, isn't it? I don't know how it is in the UK, but outside of it, it's not his pro-colonial views which are admired, but his charisma and obstination. Isn't that fundamentally similar to admiring Stalin for being strong enough to defeat Hitler rather than his penchant for purges, gulags and strategically-useful famines? Or indeed crediting JFK as the media-friendly darling of the civil rights movement rather than one of the key antagonists in the escalation of a war which may have cost 10% of Vietnam's population. I'm not suggesting that Churchill or even JFK were remotely close to being a bad a human being as Stalin, but the tendency for history's lens to be very selective about what it focuses on isn't exactly something unique to Russia.