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He is in good company. There is not much communism left in China, but Mao is still embalmed in his mausoleum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Mao_Zed

He is in good company. There is not much communism left in China, but Mao is still embalmed in his mausoleum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Mao_Zedong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Mao_Zedong

vixen99 12y ago
Not much communism? Seems to me that the media plus almost every bank plus every square inch of land being entirely state-owned is quite a lot.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  Just because the state owns lots of stuff does not mean the state is being communist. State capitalism is also a thing. As far as enterprise goes, after finding out that keeping everything in house was not working, nearly all state enterprises were incorporated and the government mostly got out of the running of the businesses, while still holding onto a majority of shares. There are also privately owned enterprises, which first equaled the number of people in employment in the public sector in 2001, and has been growing fast since, with China today having about the same balance of private sector to public sector jobs as Alaska. Also, the state does not own all the land, for the past ten years private land ownership and property rights have been established in law, hence the nail houses - http://www.danwei.org/bbs/property_rights_the_coolest_na.php http://www.danwei.org/bbs/property_rights_the_coolest_na.php
- vidarh 12y ago
  Communism is about public ownership of the means of production. Given that the Chinese state is pretty much an extension of the party elite, state ownership in China does not have much, if anything, to do with public ownership. Is the working class controlling these things? No. Has class struggle been eradicated? No. So it's not communism. (Arguably at least in a marxist sense the very existence of a state wielding political power is incompatible with communism, but fundamentally the one key definition is that communism is a society without class differences - one would be hard pressed to argue that is the case in China) There'd be a better basis for arguing it's socialism of some form, but state ownership does not automatically mean socialism either, nor does socialism require state ownership (but it also does not preclude it).
maaarghk 12y ago
Similarly Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam) is in a mausoleum, modelled after Lenin's infact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh#Death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh#Death

vixen99 12y ago

Not much communism? Seems to me that the media plus almost every bank plus every square inch of land being entirely state-owned is quite a lot.

lotsofmangos 12y ago
Just because the state owns lots of stuff does not mean the state is being communist. State capitalism is also a thing. As far as enterprise goes, after finding out that keeping everything in house was not working, nearly all state enterprises were incorporated and the government mostly got out of the running of the businesses, while still holding onto a majority of shares. There are also privately owned enterprises, which first equaled the number of people in employment in the public sector in 2001, and has been growing fast since, with China today having about the same balance of private sector to public sector jobs as Alaska. Also, the state does not own all the land, for the past ten years private land ownership and property rights have been established in law, hence the nail houses - http://www.danwei.org/bbs/property_rights_the_coolest_na.php http://www.danwei.org/bbs/property_rights_the_coolest_na.php
vidarh 12y ago
Communism is about public ownership of the means of production. Given that the Chinese state is pretty much an extension of the party elite, state ownership in China does not have much, if anything, to do with public ownership. Is the working class controlling these things? No. Has class struggle been eradicated? No. So it's not communism. (Arguably at least in a marxist sense the very existence of a state wielding political power is incompatible with communism, but fundamentally the one key definition is that communism is a society without class differences - one would be hard pressed to argue that is the case in China) There'd be a better basis for arguing it's socialism of some form, but state ownership does not automatically mean socialism either, nor does socialism require state ownership (but it also does not preclude it).

maaarghk 12y ago

Similarly Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam) is in a mausoleum, modelled after Lenin's infact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh#Death http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh#Death