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Note the vice versa: In that case device B picks up on the unlock command and relays is back to device A which rebroadcasts the unlock command to the car.
by TheLoneWolfling 12y ago
Note the vice versa:
In that case device B picks up on the unlock command and relays is back to device A which rebroadcasts the unlock command to the car.
- Sir_Cmpwn 12y agoPresumably the request could be signed.
- mikeash 12y agoSignatures do nothing to prevent blind relaying. Transmitting through an amplifying relay in this attack looks identical to transmitting through free space, aside from the received power level and propagation delay.
- Sir_Cmpwn 12y agoI'm suggesting that the car sends out a constant, signed signal to a certain range. The rob receives it and sends an unlock signal back to the car.
- dangrossman 12y agoThe amplifier relays that signed signal to the fob. The fob receives it and its unlock signal is relayed back to the car. No matter what tricky message protocol you come up with, it won't matter. The car and the fob can't detect the difference between being next to each other, and being next to a set of relays rebroadcasting their signals. Not by reading and transmitting radio signals at least.
- Sir_Cmpwn 12y agoAh, I see. You're right, then.