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Fuck. I can deal with it at family reunions. I can deal with it at bars. Most times i can deal with it in the bedroom. But here on HN? This i cannot abide. Whe

Fuck. I can deal with it at family reunions. I can deal with it at bars. Most times i can deal with it in the bedroom. But here on HN? This i cannot abide. When you say "the Media" what in gods' name do you actually mean? The Media made me do it. I would have known but for The Media. Why does The Media always [x]. I am not that smart; i make a lot of mistakes in a lot of different ways. But i learned long ago that blaming my parents, my gender, my race, etc. for MY STUPIDITY is a huge waste of time and resources. People are rioting because they are frustrated, or insidious, or bored, or despicable, or bored, or passionate, or bored. They are not rioting because a TV told them to.

mhuffman 11y ago
There are absolutely some people looting and raising hell because they are seeing others do it without consequence on television or online. When I say "the Media", I (in god's name) mean the television news, the online news, twitter, and facebook. Do you honestly think that people just independently thought to go burn some shit up (in a hive mind sort of way) all at the same time, for no reason other than they were bored? The TV didn't tell them to do it, it showed them that other people were doing it (stimulating people swaying that way to join in for whatever the reason). Further, "the media" have been purposely making a habit recently of showing black men killed by white police officers, when in fact, so far just this year 380[1] people have been killed by police -- only a fraction have been black, with the rest mostly while and latino. Also, you will note that some of those black people killed must have also been killed by black officers -- but crickets on the TV and online. Realistically, why do you think that is? Do you not at least suspect that it is because "they" (tv news, online news, etc) know how people will react? If it was just the act of the police killing someone, how come all the police shootings haven't been front-page news nation-wide? It is very naive to think that modern day journalists do not know if printing certain stories with sensationalist headlines, or focusing on certain stories will have effects on people. It is also very naive to think that people seeing and hearing these (very focused) stories would not react to them[2]. [1] http://killedbypolice.net/ http://killedbypolice.net/ [2] They certainly knew back in the day! See the Spanish-American War as a well-known example of the media "making" people do somthing
- classicsnoot 11y ago
  >There are absolutely... Indeed. Hence my use of bored three times >TV, online news[sic] twitter, fb so...100s of millions of people colluding to foment a riot? CTBP if you ask me >hivemind lunacy yes and no. >' "the media" ' seriously? they all get together at a big meeting and set an agenda? >on death, blackness, cops, and conspiracies Do not conflate the issue here. i agree this whole 'spotlight on brutality' is cherry picking by SJWs. i know full well that cops suck for more reasons than one. i also know that, regardless of the undeniable suckage, cops serve an extremely important function in an ordered society. our back and forth is about your laziness in identifying a root cause. there is no 'the media'. i assume you has a facebook (i do not). are you an agent of "the media"? please understand, i am not mad at you, i am mad at a tendency that you are representing. it is the same as any time someone says "Americans do [x]" or "white males always [x]". The idea that there are monoliths and that they act in informed concert is preposterous. It is super cool right now to act like what is happening in the US is some giant fucking race war. in truth, things are getting better. that is why individual killings stand out. but journos, pundits, and SJW bloggers are driven by attention. that does not excuse you and i acting the same way. We all want shit to change, but in different ways and for different reasons. when any opportunity appears to give voice to this seemingly ubiquitous angst, we let loose. when we do, a small group of ne'er do wells take advantage of the focus of LEOs and steal shit. I do not like the way media works either, friend. i am not opposed to you or your ideas. i just took issue with where you chose to lay they blame. thank you for taking the time to respond to me.
  - mhuffman 11y ago
    Thanks for your lucid and thought out response. > i assume you has a facebook (i do not). are you an agent of "the media"? I do not, however I do think that people either get their news from TV/radio/online or (importantly) from other friends, mostly through facebook posts these days. My main point (and opposed to your point, apparently) is that there may not be a smokey room where "the media" get together and decide what will be news, but the end effect is just the same if the vast majority of people's news sources are all printing/showing the same cherrypicked sensationalistic stories that are meant to illicit passionate reactions (and views/likes/etc.)

mhuffman 11y ago

There are absolutely some people looting and raising hell because they are seeing others do it without consequence on television or online. When I say "the Media", I (in god's name) mean the television news, the online news, twitter, and facebook. Do you honestly think that people just independently thought to go burn some shit up (in a hive mind sort of way) all at the same time, for no reason other than they were bored? The TV didn't tell them to do it, it showed them that other people were doing it (stimulating people swaying that way to join in for whatever the reason). Further, "the media" have been purposely making a habit recently of showing black men killed by white police officers, when in fact, so far just this year 380[1] people have been killed by police -- only a fraction have been black, with the rest mostly while and latino. Also, you will note that some of those black people killed must have also been killed by black officers -- but crickets on the TV and online. Realistically, why do you think that is? Do you not at least suspect that it is because "they" (tv news, online news, etc) know how people will react? If it was just the act of the police killing someone, how come all the police shootings haven't been front-page news nation-wide? It is very naive to think that modern day journalists do not know if printing certain stories with sensationalist headlines, or focusing on certain stories will have effects on people. It is also very naive to think that people seeing and hearing these (very focused) stories would not react to them[2]. [1] http://killedbypolice.net/ http://killedbypolice.net/ [2] They certainly knew back in the day! See the Spanish-American War as a well-known example of the media "making" people do somthing

classicsnoot 11y ago
>There are absolutely... Indeed. Hence my use of bored three times >TV, online news[sic] twitter, fb so...100s of millions of people colluding to foment a riot? CTBP if you ask me >hivemind lunacy yes and no. >' "the media" ' seriously? they all get together at a big meeting and set an agenda? >on death, blackness, cops, and conspiracies Do not conflate the issue here. i agree this whole 'spotlight on brutality' is cherry picking by SJWs. i know full well that cops suck for more reasons than one. i also know that, regardless of the undeniable suckage, cops serve an extremely important function in an ordered society. our back and forth is about your laziness in identifying a root cause. there is no 'the media'. i assume you has a facebook (i do not). are you an agent of "the media"? please understand, i am not mad at you, i am mad at a tendency that you are representing. it is the same as any time someone says "Americans do [x]" or "white males always [x]". The idea that there are monoliths and that they act in informed concert is preposterous. It is super cool right now to act like what is happening in the US is some giant fucking race war. in truth, things are getting better. that is why individual killings stand out. but journos, pundits, and SJW bloggers are driven by attention. that does not excuse you and i acting the same way. We all want shit to change, but in different ways and for different reasons. when any opportunity appears to give voice to this seemingly ubiquitous angst, we let loose. when we do, a small group of ne'er do wells take advantage of the focus of LEOs and steal shit. I do not like the way media works either, friend. i am not opposed to you or your ideas. i just took issue with where you chose to lay they blame. thank you for taking the time to respond to me.
- mhuffman 11y ago
  Thanks for your lucid and thought out response. > i assume you has a facebook (i do not). are you an agent of "the media"? I do not, however I do think that people either get their news from TV/radio/online or (importantly) from other friends, mostly through facebook posts these days. My main point (and opposed to your point, apparently) is that there may not be a smokey room where "the media" get together and decide what will be news, but the end effect is just the same if the vast majority of people's news sources are all printing/showing the same cherrypicked sensationalistic stories that are meant to illicit passionate reactions (and views/likes/etc.)