> I realize that people here don't have much of a reading on colonial and current Indology (why do you think the Germans called themselves "Aryans" ?), let alon

> I realize that people here don't have much of a reading on colonial and current Indology (why do you think the Germans called themselves "Aryans" ?), let alone general history, but there isn't much point talking about this to the ignorant (\pm arrogant). That's because HN is an international crowd. As a European continental citizen I am much more aware of Aryanism than the current Indian recognition movement (I assume there seems to be one, right ?). With that said I suggest you adopt a more diplomatic stance (because when all is said and done I believe that we are losing way too much information when `adopting/stealing` concepts from other societies and risk of making unintended mistakes when applying techniques without the full knowledge and body of experience that comes with it. And stealing/misattribution is bad and infuriating (to me). Thus I agree with you.) edit: Which reminds me, fwiw: I had some intense debate with some 3rd generation migrants from turkey (who were at that time rediscovering their Islam heritage) in college about zero. I held the opinion it came from India but they stick to the `arab numbers`.