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Then download the torrent and tip the producer somehow. Why pay for another service that is clearly not needed? I actually thought someone should have already b

by return0 12y ago

Then download the torrent and tip the producer somehow. Why pay for another service that is clearly not needed? I actually thought someone should have already built a startup selling 'virtual tickets'.

anigbrowl 12y ago
tip the producer somehow The most anyone has ever raised that way (following a particularly egregious leaking of a film before release in Russia, albeit probably for political reasons) is $14,000. I don't personally know anyone who's made any money from tips, and it's not exactly a promising business model. https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/02/02/leviathan-collects-1-million-rubles-in-fan-support-after-being-hit-by-piracy https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/02/02/leviathan-collects-1-mi...
- yellowapple 12y ago
  There are actually a number of ways to monetize filmmaking without selling the copies themselves (at least not directly to consumers). There's a reason why film success is measured in "box office" earnings, for example. And then you have things like merchandising deals, licensing of content/trademarks to other content creators, etc.
  - anigbrowl 12y ago
    Box office earnings are a barometer for home market sales...in fact I'd go so far as to say that the theatrical release is, for most films, the advertising campaign. Most films lose money at the box office but that's OK, because the purpose is to establish the perception of the film in the public's mind as A Movie, so that it can make an actual profit in the secondary market. Merchandising and other ancillary income is nice but doesn't amount to much for non-blockbuster films. Your R-rated drama isn't going to make tons of money from novelizations, t-shirt and poster sales, even if it's a hit...maybe 2-3% of your budget. Some films have lots of marketing/product placement potential (or are put together specifically to meet that requirement) but most don't. seeing a major reliance on that in a film's business plan would be a huge red flag.

by return0 12y ago

anigbrowl 12y ago

tip the producer somehow The most anyone has ever raised that way (following a particularly egregious leaking of a film before release in Russia, albeit probably for political reasons) is $14,000. I don't personally know anyone who's made any money from tips, and it's not exactly a promising business model. https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/02/02/leviathan-collects-1-million-rubles-in-fan-support-after-being-hit-by-piracy https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/02/02/leviathan-collects-1-mi...

yellowapple 12y ago
There are actually a number of ways to monetize filmmaking without selling the copies themselves (at least not directly to consumers). There's a reason why film success is measured in "box office" earnings, for example. And then you have things like merchandising deals, licensing of content/trademarks to other content creators, etc.
- anigbrowl 12y ago
  Box office earnings are a barometer for home market sales...in fact I'd go so far as to say that the theatrical release is, for most films, the advertising campaign. Most films lose money at the box office but that's OK, because the purpose is to establish the perception of the film in the public's mind as A Movie, so that it can make an actual profit in the secondary market. Merchandising and other ancillary income is nice but doesn't amount to much for non-blockbuster films. Your R-rated drama isn't going to make tons of money from novelizations, t-shirt and poster sales, even if it's a hit...maybe 2-3% of your budget. Some films have lots of marketing/product placement potential (or are put together specifically to meet that requirement) but most don't. seeing a major reliance on that in a film's business plan would be a huge red flag.