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> This is the perfect example of someone who lives in > separate reality from most people, and extrapolates his > rare experiences to the world at large

> This is the perfect example of someone who lives in > separate reality from most people, and extrapolates his > rare experiences to the world at large. As someone who reads CVs/resumes for a living in the UK, all that putting a low-tier university on your CV tells me - unless you got a first, or an academic prize - is that you fucked up your A-Levels, and then got pushed in to doing a degree because everyone else does them.

tsotha 12y ago
In the US there are a whole lot of entry-level jobs for which your resume will get tossed immediately with no four year degree. Any degree. From any school. A generation ago you could get these jobs straight from high school, but that's not the way it is today.
freyr 12y ago
Again, your personal experience does not extrapolate well to the world at large. This is demonstrated by the fact that it doesn't correlate with statistical evidence. I don't know why this is so difficult for people (even smart people) to see. You're comparing a desirable degree vs. a low-tier degree in the context of your company and hiring process. That might mean the world to you, but it's irrelevant to determining whether a low-tier degree has value. Compare low-tier graduates to non-graduates in the economy at large. People holding no degree are vastly more likely to be unemployed or hold a minimum wage, manual labor job. People holding a degree (even a lower tier degree), are much more likely than the no-degree group to have a more desirable job that pays relatively well. There may be many factors explaining why this disparity exists. But certainly one reason is that many companies currently require an applicant have a college degree even for non-desirable entry-level jobs. If you don't have a degree, you're not even getting your foot in the door. This practice probably makes little sense, but it's the way things currently are, and why holding a low-tier degree is much better than the alternative of holding no degree for most people.

tsotha 12y ago

In the US there are a whole lot of entry-level jobs for which your resume will get tossed immediately with no four year degree. Any degree. From any school. A generation ago you could get these jobs straight from high school, but that's not the way it is today.

freyr 12y ago

Again, your personal experience does not extrapolate well to the world at large. This is demonstrated by the fact that it doesn't correlate with statistical evidence. I don't know why this is so difficult for people (even smart people) to see. You're comparing a desirable degree vs. a low-tier degree in the context of your company and hiring process. That might mean the world to you, but it's irrelevant to determining whether a low-tier degree has value. Compare low-tier graduates to non-graduates in the economy at large. People holding no degree are vastly more likely to be unemployed or hold a minimum wage, manual labor job. People holding a degree (even a lower tier degree), are much more likely than the no-degree group to have a more desirable job that pays relatively well. There may be many factors explaining why this disparity exists. But certainly one reason is that many companies currently require an applicant have a college degree even for non-desirable entry-level jobs. If you don't have a degree, you're not even getting your foot in the door. This practice probably makes little sense, but it's the way things currently are, and why holding a low-tier degree is much better than the alternative of holding no degree for most people.