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I did not read the article. Is there a website to get popcorn time or the 'torrent' files for them? This would be the place for ads. Edit: I have now read th

I did not read the article. Is there a website to get popcorn time or the 'torrent' files for them? This would be the place for ads. Edit: I have now read the article in full. Question about financing below.

untog 11y ago
Here's an idea: read the article. If you still have questions after you've done that, then maybe ask them.
- xnull6guest 11y ago
  I just did this. It is not that ads are not possible, it is that ads are currently not shown. So here's a question: do we expect that to continue in perpetuity? My expectation would be that of the root comment: the website will in the future support its traffic and hosting costs with ads and make huge margins. Is there some reason why this expectation is foolish?
  - untog 11y ago
    It's an expectation without proof. We have no evidence suggesting they will do that, nor any suggesting they won't. So it's a pretty academic conversation. They could turn Popcorn Time into a Bitcoin mining outfit without telling anyone, too. With the advent of S3 storage and the like I would imagine their hosting costs are very small, and almost all at download time, not run time.
    - xnull6guest 11y ago
      All expectations have no proof? Yes it's speculation. Re: evidence. The evidence we do have is from precedent - former file sharing services that have made money from similar types of technologies (notably bit-torrent). It is an established fact that money can be made via advertizing and given both that CPUs are terrible at mining cryptocurrencies and that it would dramatically degrade performance the bitcoin suggestion is unlikely. Agreed that it is speculation. But this is what the OP asked for at the top: speculations as to why the developers would invest in the project. RE: costs being relatively low. Agreed. Revenue from ads are similarly small. The calculus is performed at scale - which is exactly what this technology hopes to be. The relatively low costs are what makes large margins with advertizing possible.
  - madez 11y ago
    Popcorn Time is at its heart just a torrent client using streamed torrent download to pipe the result into a media player. You can just feed a torrent file or a magnet link into Popcorn Time and it will play. There are lots of torrent clients and media players that are free software which you can use to get the same result. Your expection is baseless because said facts.
    - xnull6guest 11y ago
      Right, but if you look at the large torrent sites they make large amounts of money from ads. They are 'free' but they make money (they don't make money from you - they make money by you). Since popcorn time is effectively the same thing, I would expect the same thing. That's my grounding.
      - madez 11y ago
        Popcorn Time is _not_ the same thing, as I've described in my previous comment. You seem not to read very well.
        Crito 11y ago
        I think you should consider the possibility that he is not participating in this discussion in good faith.
        xnull6guest 11y ago
        > Popcorn Time is at its heart just a torrent client using streamed torrent download to pipe the result into a media player. > You can just feed a torrent file or a magnet link into Popcorn Time and it will play. This is what I intended to mean by 'the same thing'. Can you expound on technical reasons why it is different in such a way that advertising is not possible or is not likely?
        madez 11y ago
        The described technology is independent of the source of the torrent. Their relation is similiar to the relationship between a program and an OS. Yes, the OS permits the usage of the program but the OS is not responsible in any way for the program nor does it imply that the OS wants to make money off the profits of the program. The moment Popcorn Time adds Ads, there will be a fork without them.

untog 11y ago

Here's an idea: read the article. If you still have questions after you've done that, then maybe ask them.

xnull6guest 11y ago
I just did this. It is not that ads are not possible, it is that ads are currently not shown. So here's a question: do we expect that to continue in perpetuity? My expectation would be that of the root comment: the website will in the future support its traffic and hosting costs with ads and make huge margins. Is there some reason why this expectation is foolish?
- untog 11y ago
  It's an expectation without proof. We have no evidence suggesting they will do that, nor any suggesting they won't. So it's a pretty academic conversation. They could turn Popcorn Time into a Bitcoin mining outfit without telling anyone, too. With the advent of S3 storage and the like I would imagine their hosting costs are very small, and almost all at download time, not run time.
  - xnull6guest 11y ago
    All expectations have no proof? Yes it's speculation. Re: evidence. The evidence we do have is from precedent - former file sharing services that have made money from similar types of technologies (notably bit-torrent). It is an established fact that money can be made via advertizing and given both that CPUs are terrible at mining cryptocurrencies and that it would dramatically degrade performance the bitcoin suggestion is unlikely. Agreed that it is speculation. But this is what the OP asked for at the top: speculations as to why the developers would invest in the project. RE: costs being relatively low. Agreed. Revenue from ads are similarly small. The calculus is performed at scale - which is exactly what this technology hopes to be. The relatively low costs are what makes large margins with advertizing possible.
- madez 11y ago
  Popcorn Time is at its heart just a torrent client using streamed torrent download to pipe the result into a media player. You can just feed a torrent file or a magnet link into Popcorn Time and it will play. There are lots of torrent clients and media players that are free software which you can use to get the same result. Your expection is baseless because said facts.
  - xnull6guest 11y ago
    Right, but if you look at the large torrent sites they make large amounts of money from ads. They are 'free' but they make money (they don't make money from you - they make money by you). Since popcorn time is effectively the same thing, I would expect the same thing. That's my grounding.
    - madez 11y ago
      Popcorn Time is _not_ the same thing, as I've described in my previous comment. You seem not to read very well.
      - Crito 11y ago
        I think you should consider the possibility that he is not participating in this discussion in good faith.
      - xnull6guest 11y ago
        > Popcorn Time is at its heart just a torrent client using streamed torrent download to pipe the result into a media player. > You can just feed a torrent file or a magnet link into Popcorn Time and it will play. This is what I intended to mean by 'the same thing'. Can you expound on technical reasons why it is different in such a way that advertising is not possible or is not likely?
        madez 11y ago
        The described technology is independent of the source of the torrent. Their relation is similiar to the relationship between a program and an OS. Yes, the OS permits the usage of the program but the OS is not responsible in any way for the program nor does it imply that the OS wants to make money off the profits of the program. The moment Popcorn Time adds Ads, there will be a fork without them.