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It’s Time to Stop Pretending ESports Are ‘Real’ Sports

4 points by rkda 11y ago

Nadya 11y ago
>Chess is a recognized sport of the International Olympic Committee I think the guy should stop talking out his ass about Chess. Of course there is a lot of confusion. It's new. Try showing Polocrosse on ESPN and you'll get a bunch of confused reactions too - even though it's a legitimate and "physical" sport! It's not something ESPN regularly shows or what the viewers might expect to see. eSports isn't something that ESPN regularly shows or that viewers expect to see. It needs time to become "expected" and non-surprising. If it brings in ad revenue from the hundreds of thousands of people watching, I'm sure it will stick around. I would love if ESPN would show Polocrosse just to prove my point though.
- lightlyused 11y ago
  "physical exertion" I not sure that pushing buttons counts.
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    You're responding to a point they never made. Read their post again.
    - Nadya 11y ago
      They responded to an unedited version of my post. I forgot to mention the edit in the post and by the time I realized - it was too late to edit the post. I was originally being pedantic about the opinionated piece and went from one thought to another. I was focusing on the latter half of the definition of "sport" (individuals or teams competing against each other for others' entertainment) and not "physical exertion". >an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. The above quote is what they are referring to, with my emphasis italicized. I was trying to be pedantic in return towards the author of the article and had a rather bad oversight in my zealousness of doing so. When I had noticed my mistake, I removed the argument against the definition of "sport". Which Chess doesn't fit either - but is officially recognized as a sport. So I think the "physical exertion" bit isn't necessarily needed. E: Further explanation of scenario and a few typo/grammar fixes.
      - lightlyused 11y ago
        Perhaps a corrected definition would be physical and/or mental exertion. That would fit with with chess.
aoakenfo 11y ago
professional gamers have incredible hand/eye coordination and the ability to process and react to events in near realtime. but from the outside, it just looks like some button pushing.
CocaKoala 11y ago
eSports aren't sports; that's why they're not called "sports" and are called "eSports" instead. You wouldn't think this would be confusing, but apparently it is. And being as how people feel like they're entertaining competitions to watch, it doesn't seem out of place to air them on the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network; again, this doesn't seem like it would be confusing, but apparently it is.
- wamsachel 11y ago
  The word sport came from 'leisure activity' meat-sports took over the term, but does that mean we can't change it back? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=sport&searchmode=none http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&searc...
Lancey 11y ago
ITT: internet journalist pedantic about labels. While western media may not yet be open to embracing eSports on television, South Korea and several other nations have been televising video games for years and building followings behind them that rival "real" sports. The author's trying to make an opinionated point about the state of eSports without recognizing their following both internationally and online. There's a lot of money being thrown around in there. We're past the point of debating whether or not they are real sports and starting to seriously consider bringing them to the attention of a wider audience. It hasn't stuck (yet), but maybe in the future viewers will be receptive to it.

4 points by rkda 11y ago

Nadya 11y ago

>Chess is a recognized sport of the International Olympic Committee I think the guy should stop talking out his ass about Chess. Of course there is a lot of confusion. It's new. Try showing Polocrosse on ESPN and you'll get a bunch of confused reactions too - even though it's a legitimate and "physical" sport! It's not something ESPN regularly shows or what the viewers might expect to see. eSports isn't something that ESPN regularly shows or that viewers expect to see. It needs time to become "expected" and non-surprising. If it brings in ad revenue from the hundreds of thousands of people watching, I'm sure it will stick around. I would love if ESPN would show Polocrosse just to prove my point though.

lightlyused 11y ago
"physical exertion" I not sure that pushing buttons counts.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  You're responding to a point they never made. Read their post again.
  - Nadya 11y ago
    They responded to an unedited version of my post. I forgot to mention the edit in the post and by the time I realized - it was too late to edit the post. I was originally being pedantic about the opinionated piece and went from one thought to another. I was focusing on the latter half of the definition of "sport" (individuals or teams competing against each other for others' entertainment) and not "physical exertion". >an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. The above quote is what they are referring to, with my emphasis italicized. I was trying to be pedantic in return towards the author of the article and had a rather bad oversight in my zealousness of doing so. When I had noticed my mistake, I removed the argument against the definition of "sport". Which Chess doesn't fit either - but is officially recognized as a sport. So I think the "physical exertion" bit isn't necessarily needed. E: Further explanation of scenario and a few typo/grammar fixes.
    - lightlyused 11y ago
      Perhaps a corrected definition would be physical and/or mental exertion. That would fit with with chess.

aoakenfo 11y ago

professional gamers have incredible hand/eye coordination and the ability to process and react to events in near realtime. but from the outside, it just looks like some button pushing.

CocaKoala 11y ago

eSports aren't sports; that's why they're not called "sports" and are called "eSports" instead. You wouldn't think this would be confusing, but apparently it is. And being as how people feel like they're entertaining competitions to watch, it doesn't seem out of place to air them on the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network; again, this doesn't seem like it would be confusing, but apparently it is.

wamsachel 11y ago
The word sport came from 'leisure activity' meat-sports took over the term, but does that mean we can't change it back? http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=sport&searchmode=none http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&searc...

Lancey 11y ago

ITT: internet journalist pedantic about labels. While western media may not yet be open to embracing eSports on television, South Korea and several other nations have been televising video games for years and building followings behind them that rival "real" sports. The author's trying to make an opinionated point about the state of eSports without recognizing their following both internationally and online. There's a lot of money being thrown around in there. We're past the point of debating whether or not they are real sports and starting to seriously consider bringing them to the attention of a wider audience. It hasn't stuck (yet), but maybe in the future viewers will be receptive to it.